rytheflyguy

I'm going to buy a new phone that will support ADPL so I can quit carrying two things. I'm hesitate to purchase a phone with a Windows Mobile OS as a coworker mentioned not thinking it was good with ADPL as the Palm OS is. I'm only going to use the phone for calls, texts, and ADPL. No email or anything like that, so I'm fine with just Palm OS.

Any opinions ?

s10an

I use ADPL on a windows PDA and it works great. I dont think it matters which system you pick. Personally I like the looks of the windows version better than the palm.
Pick the system you already paid for. If not you have to buy a new license.

I have heard that the palm treo phones operating on windows doesnt work great in general...

Roper92

For those of us who don't know...ADPL is...

Josher9er

Airline Pilot Daily Logbook by logbook pro. Its an electronic version of the little red book.

bohicagain

Which is a horrible program

mistarose

It actually isn't a horrible program, it works very well. I use it with a Treo 700w, screen is small but you manage. You have to have a phone with a touchscreen and Windows Mobile or Palm OS.

Another option is to get a super cheap PDA on Ebay and use it for that purpose and just keep it in your flight bag. The big screen will make it super easy to enter your times.

I'd also say having APDL along with Logbook Pro is the only way to go. I copy my time from my phone to the computer to my paper logbook.

Cheers

rytheflyguy

Yep, I did that the last year to make sure I wanted to make the jump. I bought a cheap used on on Ebay and recommend anyone considering do that! It is about to crap out, so I thought I'd go to a phone version and carry less.

Thanks for the info everyone.

Vectorfly

I use a centro for phone/APDL use. I was scared away from anything windows after listening to multiple co-workers that traded theirs in for palm units. They were sick of windows mobile crashing all the time.

Mason32

I had an old Palm OS PDA that I ran APDL on for a year or so, it worked very well; but it didn't integrate easily with the Windows PC at home. Some things were easy to copy over, others (most) were not.

I upgraded two years ago to a palm 700wx running windows mobile 5. I've been very happy with the phone and the integration with MS Outlook is just great. Just a few months ago APDL added a feature which the Palm version always had.... copying your schedule to the PDA calender. The Windows mobile version now does this too, and what's better is when you copy your schedule into APDL it copies it to your PDA calendar like the Palm versions did, but when you sync to your home PC it copies it right into MS outlook calender... The Palm OS versions didn't integrate your schedules to the calender easily, if at all.

If you're using a Windows PC at home, I'd go with the Windows mobile version of APDL. It works great. Once you have t set up it will watch your 30/7, required rest, and even does your CONUS/OCONUS if you enter in the values for each airport. It has an expense tracker as well. It will even keep a running tab of what your pay should be.

Much better than the old little red books.

If you have the PC version of LogbookPro you can even blast all your times into your logbook. It is by far the easiest way I've found to keep track of everything with very little effort, with the added plus of keeping an accurate logbook in case you ever need to change jobs.

The screen on the Palm 700wx could be a little bigger, but it works fine.
As of yet, the tech folks have no plans for a version that will run on an Iphone or an Instinct, so your pretty much stuck with either the Palm OS or the Windows mobile...

If it helps, all I do now, is copy and import my schedules from the airline's system. Then at the end of each flight, or the end of each day, I add in the actual out/in times.... done. It is also great beacuse you have notes sections for each airport which is handy for jetbridge codes, ops or hotel phone numbers, whatever. It has spots for crew names also. Once every few weeks or so, I sync the APDL with logbookpro on the home PC.... done.

macflyer

get an IPhone and go with Logten Mobile, By far its the best and has great support. If you have a Mac already its a no brainer coupled with Logten Pro, but it still can work with windows through exporting into other formats.