Things change, get over it! I don't fly this nor would I ever but get over it. Different people do things different and just because something is different doesn't mean it is bad....give it a month or two I mean seriously in the grand scheme of before most people were born....what is a month or two?

 

How about we just let them continue to tick off the shuttle managers, that way there is more reason to eventually dump them and go back to mainline pilots and planes flying mainline routes. The only downside I see, unfortunately, is that the passengers will leave and not come back before this thing fixes itself.

 

Yep... that's likely! They will go to UsAir... full service 319 vs no service 175. I just commuted on the 175. I wish the 175 FA/Pilots could have been required to fly on the Delta Shuttle b4 they operate the Shuttle. They could have seen what service is... The customers already see a difference, and will soon be gone!

 

I'll bet you it doesn't. Further more what does it matter to you. Who are you to look for a revision change on our policies. Like the Duck said if you are non rev-ing or jump seating sit down and shut up. They can board an MD 80 in 30 minutes why not a 70 seat E jet in 20. Neither we pilots nor the FA's are paid to babysit customers for the first 20 minutes why the hell should we add another un-needed 10 minutes to that. If everyone would stop putting the coats and lap tops in overheads and take their damn seat in a timely fashion you can board the fleet in 10 minutes. Its an RJ not a 7-5. Its about time some gate agents get flustered, damn jump seat police that they are, make em sweat. If this is flame bait its worked sorry everyone.

9 times out of 10 if it doesn't get off the gate on time it's because someone outside the aircraft is not doing there job. As for the RAH 30 prior guy that's on him, give em 30 next thing you know they'll want 40 and we get to sit there unpaid for longer. If you are closing 10 early, you're my kinda guy. But I know if you are in Philly you'd better make that point to the gate agent cause they will just take their sloppy old time with boarding.

 

Can I make a plea to all the RAH pilots to not reply to this thread?

We are professionals - just like mainline. We all fly aircraft, we all fly abiding by the same FAR's, and we all fly in accordance with our FAA company-approved manuals.

They (meaning people of other airlines) are upset because we (those of us who have seniority numbers somewhere around 1800 or 1900 in a seniority list of just over 2000) called up the DL and RAH CEO's on a Saturday morning and asked if we could take over Delta Shuttle. Oh wait...

There have been very few people at RAH that operate in an unprofessional manner. We just got in increase in the DL Shuttle flying and its only been happening for a week. Of course there are going to be glitches at first, but give it some time before you start bashing us and the way that we are instructed (per our manuals) to operate. If there is a problem, then I am sure it will be addressed in the near future.

 

NO doubt a flame bait post from a ticked off 88 FO who probably flew the shuttle for some time. That being said GET OVER IT!! In my stint at Shuttle I flew LGA-DCA and LGA-MDW-LGA more times than I can count. GREAT agents and never had problems boarding. S5 manuals say board 20 minutes prior. Anything else is at the crews discretion. All this crap about before they were born would go for the original whiner as well.

Only time will tell how this will play out.... sit back and watch, you just might be surprised how good the service will be. And as for NO service that is DELTA's call.... shuttle did china service in our first class as recently as early 2008 on "shuttle" flights out of LGA.

 

It's bad enough to see Mainline flying farmed out, but then when you see one of your most important products degraded it's frustrating. Yes, degraded. When it's goes from a FULL SERVICE MD88 to a NO SERVICE E175 the product is degraded. It has NOTHING to do with the Quality of the Shuttle people, I'm know they run a GOOD product. It has to do with the fact that our customers no longer get service. East Coast shuttle has been a very important and competitive product, and are customers pay the same but get less on the E175. Now if they started providing the same service on the E175, then the product would be equal.

 

BINGO BINGO...We have a winning post!!! Its not about the people its about the product & the tradition. Hopefully this is just an experiment but sadly I have my doubts.

 

...so why again are pilots mad at other pilots when the 'blame' for this 'lack of service' falls squarely on the management team that made a business decision to redeploy narrowbodies on other routes?

 

Good Question. I'm not angry at the S5 pilots. It's not their fault, it is DL mainline management that downgraded the service. I think it's a bad move, because it's a highly competitive business men route.