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Old 01-17-2009 | 07:23 AM
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This one is really weird...

Cruising at FL340 late yesterday center comes on and asks do we need to descend to FL240.

Ummm...no, not that we are aware of?

Then center says that all CRJ200's operated by these companies (lists most of them) are now restricted to FL240 due to extreme cold at altitude...

We were in relatively warm air, nothing too cold for the flaps. We sent a text to company, no response. Started the descent (we were about there anyway) and landed normally.

No emails, haven't heard anything about this...anyone know what's up?
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Old 01-17-2009 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
This one is really weird...

Cruising at FL340 late yesterday center comes on and asks do we need to descend to FL240.

Ummm...no, not that we are aware of?

Then center says that all CRJ200's operated by these companies (lists most of them) are now restricted to FL240 due to extreme cold at altitude...

We were in relatively warm air, nothing too cold for the flaps. We sent a text to company, no response. Started the descent (we were about there anyway) and landed normally.

No emails, haven't heard anything about this...anyone know what's up?

Its the -60C enroute Temperature limitation.....ive seen -53 to-58 all this week
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Old 01-17-2009 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy8784
Its the -60C enroute Temperature limitation.....ive seen -53 to-58 all this week
Right, but we knew about that and were not really that close to -60C. But what does that have to with FL240 and when did ATC start dictating our operating procedures? Was there some kind of FAA emergency order? You'd think they would have told us by now.
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Old 01-17-2009 | 07:34 AM
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That is weird they would do that, the -60c is all thats in the books for operating the plane... I had a friend tell me that the midwest had altitudes below -60c a few days ago... if thats worth anything...
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Old 01-17-2009 | 07:37 AM
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FL240 just might have been significantly warmer....why ATC felt the need to delagate orders? Who knows....

Ill tell ya what....I can pretty much bet none of our dispatchers would have caught that
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Old 01-17-2009 | 07:39 AM
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seems a little odd for ATC to jump in like that, the 145 has a couple temperature limitations, but we weren't really close to any of them the other day. It was dang cold though, -50's if memory serves me right, at around 37k feet.
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Old 01-17-2009 | 09:01 AM
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There is a -60C limitation for those CR2's that DO NOT have the latest flap S/B complied with. I know at 9E there are still just a few in the fleet that do not comply. There was a changeover in a certain flap part that supposedly was not changed (on the assembly line) until the last XXX airframes. 9E has most of the last ones (newest) so most already have the part, otherwise they have to be replaced on the older airframes or not operate in temps colder than -60C.


Clear as mud?
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Old 01-17-2009 | 09:10 AM
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With the cold weather a lot of companies have seen a dramatic rise in flap failures so to reduce the delays and cancelations associated with the flap failures dispatch has been filing us at lower altitudes. They are willing to burn more gas over the costs of the flap failures.
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Old 01-17-2009 | 09:59 AM
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Delta won't have to cut any 50 seat flying, the Feds are going to A/D the -200 out of existence!









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Old 01-17-2009 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OscarOscar
Delta won't have to cut any 50 seat flying, the Feds are going to A/D the -200 out of existence!









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Would that necessary be a bad thing???
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