ACEAV8R

Nice try. What they'll do is eventually shut the station down and hire contract companies to do it for minimum wage and no insurance benefits.


Management is using the old trick in the book against employees. Divide and conquer is the legendary yet effective way of screwing with people. Believe it or not, ramp/gate agents, pilots, flight attendants, mtc, dispatch, crew scheduling, etc are all in this fight together. Maybe by just taking a little time out and learning enough to understand what the other guy(or gal) task are would help in not making one look like such an @$$ the next time they are red lining.

I once told a new FO who was starting to smell himself enough to get rude "not to get mad at me or my agents because we make more than him and have less money to pay the creditors." It made the captain and FA(both my good friends) laugh histerically and the FO turn crimson red from the embarassment. When i saw him a couple days later, he acted like we were childhood friends.

BLott4

Having worked both as a gate agent (hub and out station), it is just common courtesy to stop by the counter and say you're here. "Not my job" is prevalent through the industry and has made an already bad situation worse, but just throwing more work on our fellow employees.

My version of the story, we had an a/c that had been there several days because of mx. After a couple of winter storms, we couldn't even get to the plane to deice, so I talked to the capt and he said if we could shovel three lanes, he would taxi forward so we could get all the stuff off the plane. I started at it, and all of a sudden, looked up to see the FO, in nothing but the uniform coat and overcoat, working on the other side of the a/c. He was my hero then and continues to be to this day, wish I knew his name! After I got flying, I have tried to keep up his spirit!

CAPTAIN INSANO

What a jerk! He fits into the WEASEL category. I bet he is a RAT too!

CAPTAIN INSANO

I'm sorry, do you really need more than 10-15 minutes to get a CRJ ready to go? If you do, you have problems.

DLAJ77

15 min prior to departure is not enough time to get a crj ready. From a pilots standpoint yea we can do our stuff in 5. Its the FA that has to do all the seats from an AC that has its first flight of the day.

JetPipeOverht

This situation happens a lot at stations staffed by other than your own company and sometimes I see it as a farce. With all these stations up for bids these days, and it seems that in the case with DAL they're looking to cut costs from dual-staffed stations ( ASA/DL/NWA etc... ) one can only assume things will be getting worse because if you're only going to keep stations around because they offer cheap services I don't necessarily think that they are the BEST services. I agree this FO acted innapropriately but many people are going through a lot these days and your title to the thread of "TEAMWORK" is exactly what we need now a days. Rant Over, thank you.

CAPTAIN INSANO

Oh well, do what you can, work with what you have.

ACEAV8R

on the flip side, there are many guys/gals who were compassionate on working together. for example on a day when mother nature was showing just how much of a b!tch she can be, i remember a Captain jumping into the bin to help off load bags(he wanted to help but didn't want to get wet) and the FO pushing wheelchairs The FA also got her own galley supplies.

Also remember on a different occasion a former gate agent who was the FO of a flight logged in to the cpu next to me and helped me with irops. What better agent to have working on an irop than the pilot of your delayed flight?

Fortunately, there were more good crew than bad. Again, just get to know people. Respect goes along way and as the old folks would say "you'll attract more bees with honey than you would with vinegar"

Jake Wheeler

The FO probably found out he was going to stay in the right seat for another 5 years.

seoceancrosser

Having a "That's not my job" attitude is not entirely bad. It may seem selfish and lazy, but it helps keep the team in teamwork. If pilots loaded bags, checked-in pax, de-iced aircraft and performed other vital functions then there wouldn't be a need for ramp agents. I wouldn't want kindness to show up in the job description. I wouldn't want the company to even think of asking me to do someone elses job. If the station is understaffed then it is the stations problem and nobody elses. A few late departues due to lack of employees might help a few more people get their job back. It just seems that you were on the recieving end of a couple employees showing there butts. It's un-professional, but it does and will continue happen none the less.