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afterburn81 01-31-2009 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by SilverandSore (Post 549250)
That's because they are't certified CAT II on the ASA certificate. We're dealing with the government here, it takes time...

I hear ya, I think people are confused with this aircraft being "equipped" opposed to "certified" for Cat II ops. It's surely equipped and if I read the tech brief correctly it has lower Cat II mins than the other aircraft at ASA. All aircraft have to be certified by the company and FAA when they are excepted. So I'm sure they'll work that out, no need to worry.

FL450 01-31-2009 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by RichieAshburn (Post 549087)
Here's the -9 F/O payscale:

Yr Rate
1..............$52
2..............$72
3..............$84
4..............$86
5..............$88
6..............$90

That's enough for now, since it will change again in 2010, 2011, 2012...


Oh, wait you meant the CRJ-900 regional jet, right?:rolleyes:


Hmmm those look like CRJ 1000 FO rates:rolleyes: since it is virtually as big as DC-9... Oh wait thats right thats a main line airplane any way (104 seats) unless some one creates an alter ego (Transtates) and creates a whole new regional using 1000:eek:


Bronco ready for BReck?

BlueMoon 01-31-2009 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by BigBallzMagee (Post 549095)
No Cat 2 is strange with Dual FMS ......Only 1 switch on the fire detection panel.....Auto bleed transfer I hear.....I wonder if the temp control actually works or if it's still like the 200....Hot or Cold. Either way it looks good.

Why is it strange? FMS has nothing to do with cat II

cessna157 01-31-2009 12:51 PM

What aircraft number are they up to now? Looks like 15217?

Avroman 01-31-2009 01:06 PM

The Mesaba CRJ900s are Cat II. Currently we are at 1600RVR and DH of 100ft. One more step to go for "full CAT II". Yes it is a lot of government red tape to get this done. We had to start out demonstrating Cat II procedures down to 1800 RVR and 200 DH for I believe it was 4 months and a minimum of 50 successful approaches. Now we are in the second phase to the lower mins with the same time frame. We are also just starting to do the same for the CRJ200s. Though I hear the Saabs will not be going CAT II.
If we install the HUD's we would be able to do the CAT III like Horizon does but I doubt we will ever get around to that.

Roper92 01-31-2009 06:48 PM

Can't you do CAT I down to 1800 RVR with the right equipment? (Flight Director among other things?)
The CAT II should bring you down to 1200 RVR if I am not mistaken.

spank 01-31-2009 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Roper92 (Post 549501)
Can't you do CAT I down to 1800 RVR with the right equipment? (Flight Director among other things?)
The CAT II should bring you down to 1200 RVR if I am not mistaken.

Right in both cases...Avroman was trying to explain the process an airline has to go through to get Cat II authorization. It's a 3 stage process, and you must successfully complete each stage before moving onto the next which allows lower mins. Ultimately 1200 rvr after final certification. All crews need specific training, aircraft need to be individually certified, and required equipment must be working in order to shoot the approach.

USMC3197 01-31-2009 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by spank (Post 549511)
Right in both cases...Avroman was trying to explain the process an airline has to go through to get Cat II authorization. It's a 3 stage process, and you must successfully complete each stage before moving onto the next which allows lower mins. Ultimately 1200 rvr after final certification. All crews need specific training, aircraft need to be individually certified, and required equipment must be working in order to shoot the approach.

Yup..........

mooney 02-01-2009 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 549352)
Why is it strange? FMS has nothing to do with cat II

I was wondering that myself.....unless he means that since they spent extra money on all the bells and whistles he's surprised they didn't go all the way and spend the money on Cat 2 cert.

John Pennekamp 02-01-2009 07:02 AM

Everyone at ASA salivating and beating their chests over the arrival of "the nine" are lame, lame, lame. Hello, folks, IT'S STILL AN RJ! It has 6 more seats, and you get paid the SAME to fly it. GET OVER IT!


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