Mesa FAs allowed to jumpseat on own metal??
02-01-2009 | 06:36 AM
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Could be like the program Delta has for offline FA jumpseating. Any OAL FA can "jumpseat," but they are actually on an ID00. They are not allowed to occupy the actual js, there has to be an open seat, but it costs them nothing. They also don't have to check-in with the captain, because they are listed as non-revs, not XCMs.
02-01-2009 | 06:57 AM
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Delta cracks me up! I was trying to get home on a flight a while back and got stuck in ATL (which seems to always happen). It was a full flight and I listed for the JS. A DAL captain showed up 10 minutes before the flight and listed as a JS. The gate agent told me that he took the JS (which is fine because he is DAL and I am Comair). He also stated that there is an extra FA JS in the 757 that was open, but that Comair does not have a FA JS agreement with DAL (because we have no extra JS) and I could not ride in that seat, but the DAL captain could (if he chose to). Funny how I can sit up front, but not in back! Anyway, the DAL captain overheard the conversation and never offered to ride in the FA seat so that I could ride up front and get home (it was only a 1 hour flight), instead HE SMILED AND WAVED "BYE BYE" as he headed down the jetbridge. I had to get a hotel room and wound up getting home at 2pm the following day.
Wow...thats just wrong.
I would ride in the cargo compartment if they let me to help a fellow pilot get home.....
02-01-2009 | 07:02 AM
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02-01-2009 | 07:04 AM
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02-01-2009 | 07:09 AM
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02-01-2009 | 07:15 AM
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I personally don't see the big deal-although you are signing up to be an XCM when you jumpseat-when i have an emergency im not gonna involve the help of another person-so if you think your gonna be workin the radios when i lose an engine over the hudson...think again.
Bad idea...the problem is that if non-pilots becomes eligible for the cockpit jumpseat, the day after that is set in stone they will IMMEDIATELY start pushing for JS access based on seniority, ie DOH! A lot of senior FA's would have a much easier commute to work and a lot of pilots would be SOL. Remember FA's don't have a retirement age...their seniority keeps accruing until they petrify.
02-01-2009 | 07:37 AM
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If you had been any other carrier other than Comair, you most likely would have gotten on that flight. Heck, even a Mesa or Gojet guy would have had a better chance than a Comair guy. While many view those two carriers in less than a favorable light, their actions have had less of a direct impact on the DL pilot group than some of Comair's actions. Not saying it's right, just that the Comair group has the biggest target right now.
02-01-2009 | 08:50 AM
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I'm guessing that is has NOTHING to do with the cockpit JS. There are lots of airlines that allow their FA's to "Jumpseat" on their own airline. SOME airlines allow other airline FA's to JS on them. They are allowed to occupy the FA's JS. Now, I don't know about MESA's ERJ's, but the aircraft does have an aft FA JS that our FA's are allowed to occupy if the flight is full.
Also, depending on how the non rev agreement is structured, you can be charged a fee to non rev, even on your own airline. If using the JS, it won't cost the anything.
Also, depending on how the non rev agreement is structured, you can be charged a fee to non rev, even on your own airline. If using the JS, it won't cost the anything.
02-01-2009 | 09:02 AM
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Just a question. I assume from your profile that you are furloughed from Comair. My question is if Comair furloughees maintain jumpseat privileges or non-rev privileges or both while on furlough? If you do I think that's great. I'd just like to know how it works incase there's something we could do at ASA to get something similar. I realize that Comair is owned by Delta and ASA is not. Just wondering if there is anything ASA could do for their furloughees.
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