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Old 03-12-2009 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Xelectro
I am not against TSA getting a good contract, what I am against is a merger between the two.

It's the GoJet pilots that would be screwed this time.
Well first of all you don't have a say anyways because you've yet to go to GJ clas.... But even if you did have a say, GJ pilots will not be screwed, if anything it will be the TSA pilots because GJ is and has always been a whipsaw. Things won't change, the pilots will probably be seat locked or not even transfer anyways so most TS and GJ will be separate. The only thing that will change is that they won't hire anymore because of all the furloughed TSA pilots. But there will be movement at both companies and hopefully a better contract which I really doubt. It's win win for both and as an added bonus for GJ, officially they'll be "ok" to work for, like Freedom.

By the way I like you say it will be GJ pilots that will be screwed THIS TIME.... so you're agreeing that TSA was screwed the OTHER time huh??
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Old 03-12-2009 | 08:39 AM
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And from what I have heard from GoJet pilots, alot of them wouldn't mind picking up the 145 flying from TSA. You guys strike and that might be the end of TSA. Yeah they might call us scabs and stuff, but if GoJet was to get all of TSA's flying, I seriously doubt that they would turn it down.
You guys might be holding the line, but don't realize that you might not have a job if you strike. While you guys are on strike, all the flying will be transfered to GoJet and you guys will all be on permanent furlough.
Post. Of. The. Decade. Can we put this in an APC hall of fame?

If GoJet had no future, then why would ASA endorse it and recommend it's furloughed pilots to go there. United- their union tells their furloughed pilots to go there. GoJet has been around for a couple of years now, despite all the so called talks and being called scabs. If I was a betting man, I would say that no merging is ever going to happen and no strike is going to happen as well.
If I was a betting man, I'd say by the end of your career, you're gonna end up on the master scab list somewhere. Maybe not here, while you're at GJ, but sometime, down the dirt path that is becoming your career, your name will end up there. I don't like GJ, never have and never will, but I highly doubt any of pilots over there want it any worse than they have now. I'm pretty sure they don't want to be called scabs in the truest sense of the word.

Yea, they might call us scabs and stuff...


...and stuff?! Is your view of this industry that myopic? Please tell the peanut gallery how many GJ pilots you've actually talked to and and how many share your point of view?
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Old 03-12-2009 | 09:04 AM
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Xelectro DOES NOT SPEAK for anyone I know at GJ. All of the high time guys get it and we will NOT FLY STRUCK WORK. EVER. PERIOD.

If it means setting the brake and walking away, I'm ok with that.
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Old 03-12-2009 | 10:08 AM
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Xelectro DOES NOT SPEAK for anyone I know at GJ. All of the high time guys get it and we will NOT FLY STRUCK WORK. EVER. PERIOD.

If it means setting the brake and walking away, I'm ok with that.
Sort of a blurry line isn't it?
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Old 03-12-2009 | 10:37 AM
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It looks like "now where" there is attempting to grow some moral character. That's a good thing. How about rallying your fellow gojet people behind a merge, so we can put this whole issue to bed for good?
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Old 03-12-2009 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bryris
Sort of a blurry line isn't it?
Not by a long shot.
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Old 03-12-2009 | 11:24 AM
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From a Trans States guy, i don't think the line is that blurry....And if we find ourselves on strike, it'll be even more clear. Personally, i'd love to add a few names to the scab list, just to see who goes to work...
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Old 03-12-2009 | 11:28 AM
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My point was misconstrued. A strike is not blurry. But this guy says he'd set the brake and walk if it came to that, yet GoJet pilots continue to fly knowing the story as it stands.

There was never a strike - so no one is a scab per the definition. But my point was to cast some light on the blurry nature of the fact that these guys continue to fly - and even worse, TSA furloughs are going over there to fly.

If I had to guess, it was popular to complain about GoJet while at TSA, but now that they've crossed over, all of a sudden it seems so much more defendable.
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Old 03-12-2009 | 12:35 PM
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[quote=Purpleanga;576838]That is absolutely not true both sides have been in talks for a long time, their union has no interest in taking over TSA, but up until now it was the TSA side that never wanted it. It's becoming apparent though that Hulas doesn't want to give a fair contract.

And frankly GJ pilots don't really have a say, the "union" minions work for Hulas. If he says the word, it will be done. Both sides need something. And yea the union thing is a joke. Which union is going to support you guys, the local trash hauler, car dealers, tire sales union? I'm sure they care a lot about you guys.....[/quote]

...and you can plainly see what YOUR Union did for you about...let's see...what was it......like almost 4 years ago????
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Old 03-12-2009 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Xelectro
And from what I have heard from GoJet pilots, alot of them wouldn't mind picking up the 145 flying from TSA. You guys strike and that might be the end of TSA. Yeah they might call us scabs and stuff, but if GoJet was to get all of TSA's flying, I seriously doubt that they would turn it down.
You guys might be holding the line, but don't realize that you might not have a job if you strike. While you guys are on strike, all the flying will be transfered to GoJet and you guys will all be on permanent furlough.

If GoJet had no future, then why would ASA endorse it and recommend it's furloughed pilots to go there. United- their union tells their furloughed pilots to go there. GoJet has been around for a couple of years now, despite all the so called talks and being called scabs. If I was a betting man, I would say that no merging is ever going to happen and no strike is going to happen as well.

I work here and can definitely say BS to this statement. YOU may fly struck work but there are a helluva alot of people here that WILL NOT. Speak for yourself and NOT the pilot group mmmmmmmkkayyy
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