I'm sure it is the same way in most countries. Unless you are a citizen or legally authorized to work you cant get a job. It happens in the US it happens on the other side of the pond so i don't really get the point what people are complaining about. I even think it's easier for US pilot to get a job overseas. If you are qualified you can get a gig INDIA, QATAR...and no citizenship is requiered. Can they do it the other way around HELL NO!
As stated before no US company sponsors a foreign pilot...therefore, whether you like it or not, the guy on the radio with the "different accent" from yours has " no different rights" from yours.

Times are tough for everyone, but i dont think it is right to insinuate it's because of the LEGALLY employed "foreign pilot"...get a better excuse.

oh....yeah...texaspilot, i don't think canceling visas (tourism???? ding ding ding!!!!!) and closing those flight schools that bring foreign students who will invest thousands and thousands of dollars in the country, and pay the salary of many many people is a good idea....dont you think?:confused:

just my opinion...


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Just so nobody get's the wrong idea...I don't hold individuals at fault for taking advantage of a legal opportunity. I do wish my government had a different policy, which is a problem for us citizens to consider.

As far as BA, why should I have to marry a brit to get an interview? My wife would not approve...

England has the same recipracle agreements as the US.

BTW if you are white/black your aren't from this country. What gives you more rights than someone who just came to this country after you? Sounds like a kindergarden arguement of who got here first.

I was born here. If you think I'm not "from here" try and attempt to remove me...it won't go well for you. Events which occurred hundreds of years before my birth have no relevance as far as that goes.

No they don't. They may in theory on paper, but somehow in practice you don't see too many US pilots getting hired over there. I'm not going to count marriages of convenience, that's illegal and not practical for most of us.

This is actually like discussing jumpseats...you guys are saying "let me ride your jumpseat. My airline will not reciprocate but that's no reason to deny me since plenty of other airlines will let you onboard". Or maybe your airline does have a recip agreement, but all the captains will deny me anyway....hmm, that sounds like gojet.

Since this thread has strayed anyway, I do think it is unfair that we hand out license conversions like candy. However, US licensed pilots have to jump through burning hoops to get converted to JAA (or whatever they're called). One way or the other, standardization is needed.

I'm OK with JAA standards, I don't fault them one bit for that. We should adopt them ourselves.

Sure they have relevance as these "events" still take place.

I don't have a problem with JAA standards either. My point was that either we should adopt them or they should adopt ours. Either way, there shouldn't be double standards.

"Candidates must meet Transport Canada English proficiency standard. "

That's the one that cracks me up. So what, I need to learn French now if I go to Montreal because that seems to be what they call English on the radio. I'm going to start writing an ASAP every time I go there. There is going to be an accident up their because some (I'm french Canadian so you can kiss my ass) moron speaking with marbles in his mouth can't make radio calls in the required English language and the quality ICAO service provided by Montreal-ians won't correct him but instead answers him back improperly, in French. :rolleyes:

far 61.103.(c) Clearly states you must be English proficient to even get a FAA license. Yet some (I'll do what ever ICAO asks me too, suck ass in Washington) makes me get a new ticket saying that I am English proficient. I HAD TOO BE TO GET THE TICKET IN THE FIRST PLACE. You think they are giving out our jobs like candy now, I am sure there is more to come on this. This was a precursor to allow foreign carriers to operate freely on our American soil. Virgin American is already doing it.