surreal1221

What I want to know then, is who left?

The furloughed seniority list still shows the 80 of us. No one has been removed.

That being said, I don't want to be recalled only to be kicked back to the curb in December. I'm sorry but I'm not some temp labor that hangs out at the local Home Depot looking for work.

FlyASA

I think the earliest any of us will be called back is spring 2010. The summer travel season is the busiest so they would have called us back by now if they really needed us. The fall is slow and they'll just JM their way through the holiday travel season till they lose the 20 -200s (net loss of 10). Then they'll probably furlough everyone else who isn't protected by the furlough protection clause (40 pilots not protected?) though management will probably find a way around the clause.

The fact of the matter is that next year this time we will be about 100-120 pilots fat again from the net loss of the 10 -200s. So unless we see some serious attrition (not likely) or the economy turns around then we are all going to be stuck on the street for awhile. We will be even fatter on pilots if PBS gets passed.

I think overall Skywest/ASA is in a strong position but what has me most concerned is ASA's exposure to the -200. I wish we had been able to get in on more -700s and -900s when they were being awarded by Delta or if we had looked into a new turboprop.

How many more years do we have left on our contract with Delta?

Gunga Galunga

I agree with you about not wanting to be temp labor. I was told by one of the people in my class going to the gojet class that they had to send in a letter of resignation in order to accept the class there. anyone else confirm if that is fact/fiction?

FlyASA

I know someone who went there and they said that they were told to write it on the first day of class but no one came and collected it. I haven't talked to them in awhile so I don't know if they ever ended up having to mail it in or not.

hemaybedid

If I remember what I heard correctly, they were told they would have to mail the letter upon completion of training.

SilverandSore

Come on people, it's really not that hard. You were extended during IROPS and 60 aircraft parked for a paper error, correct? And that's reason to bring back furloughs? You haven't been around long enough. When line values go over 90 hours, all reserves are going over 75 hours and line holders get extended up to their max (3 times a month I think?), THEN you will see some recalls. If we get additional airframes, THEN you will see recalls. Until then, it's just the usual...pilot's b!tching about having to work under a contract we signed.

TP199

[QUOTE it's just the usual...pilot's b!tching about having to work under a contract we signed.[/QUOTE]

its a contract that you signed. the people that are furloughed, and more, did not get to vote on it. look at all the 'red arrow days'. we obviously need to recall. imagine how bad it will be in the summer.

John Pennekamp

The "red arrow days" are because they cut all lines below guarantee to prevent lineholders from flying over block, and thus save money. The unintended consequence of this was that they created more lines, and thus had less reserves available, creating the low coverage ("red arrow") days.

As said above, we are not understaffed. When we are understaffed, you'll see lines at 85-90 hours, reserves hitting 75, and people getting extended and junior manned on sunny days.

Expect to see slight improvement in May and much improvement in June. Don't expect to see recalls until late Spring 2010 if at all.

acl65pilot

Exactly John. There is another 2 for 1 deal in the works.

John Pennekamp

I know you and you know me. I'm curious why you keep saying that. You seem to be the only one saying it publicly. ASA management knows nothing about it. I'd love for you to pm me what you know, and where you heard it (don't name names, just what department).