MSNBC article on airline cost cutting
05-20-2009 | 01:25 PM
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And that's why the truth needs to become known.... People are shocked to find out I only get paid 75 hours per month especially when I put that in the terms of office worker 160 hour a month at work and pay. Me about 300 at work 75 paid......
05-20-2009 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by robthree
Are you kidding? In what world do you live that moving from wherever you lived before you got this job to a hub city would save you money?
All I said was that I've never heard anybody claim that before. True statement. Then again, a disproportionate number of guys I fly with live in CA. Now I guess I've heard otherwise.
FWIW, moving into base would have been a wash for me (other than the cost of moving) - so that's the "world in which I live." As much as I hate commuting, I'm not moving my fam away from western WA just so I can fly airplanes. For that reason, I'll be a commuter until I find my way out of this "career."
Now simmer down, Beavis.....
05-20-2009 | 02:51 PM
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Been saying that for awhile. Most want to keep their heads in the sand. Wake up people 300 hr per diem is 300 hr at work! And yes sleeping in the hotel room is time at work. Does a fireman clock out when he goes to sleep at the station? Duty time payscales people think about it.
05-20-2009 | 04:12 PM
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05-20-2009 | 04:44 PM
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Agree 100%. Would love to see some progress made in this direction. An incentive for more efficient crew utilization may benefit both pilots and airlines. Unfortunately, given how long the current system has been in place, I doubt anything short of government intervention will change it.
05-20-2009 | 05:56 PM
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Unfortunately, 0-1 pay does somewhat resemble first year airline pay. The difference is that the benefits in the military are excellent. Airline benefits kinda suck these days.
05-20-2009 | 06:00 PM
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05-20-2009 | 06:08 PM
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Seriously? When I was a butter bar I got an all expense paid trip to jet camp. It was rediculous. Nearly every butter bar gets a year of UPT and 6 months of Graduate pilot training. Nobody does anything usefull until 1st LT. I was told at UPT that the two most useless ranks in the AF are 2LT and Major. 2LTs just learn a job and Majors learn how to manage an operation.
Unfortunately, 0-1 pay does somewhat resemble first year airline pay. The difference is that the benefits in the military are excellent. Airline benefits kinda suck these days.
Unfortunately, 0-1 pay does somewhat resemble first year airline pay. The difference is that the benefits in the military are excellent. Airline benefits kinda suck these days.
I never mentioned untill now Anything about UPT or Pilot training I have several friends who went to UPT as Captains just waiting for a slot some came from different AFSCs as for JET CAMP No comment
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