Blkflyer

Is this Flame Mr Duck? are you being sarcastic?

Last time I went to work I didnt have to worry about MOPP Level 4 alarm Black when you put your time as a Butter Bar in a war zone come back make the same comments.

JetJock16

Quote: "Like actors and other artists, pilots are a little too anxious to suffer for their art," says Smith

Well said! All you have to do is read the postings from all the CFI's & Students on this forum telling those who complain about their low pay and min days off, too suck it up or quit.

Senior Skipper

Most or all of us on the board are aware of the problem, I'm just glad MSNBC is starting to get the news to the public. Hopefully somebody out there will read the article and think:


"10 years ago, Boston to LA was "x" dollars, and today it's $110. Fuel prices have gone up. What are they cutting back on in order to provide me with this low fare? Maintenance, overworked staff?"

dwightkschrute

Let's not get off on a tangent about mil vs civ but I have to at least defend ToiletDuck. To be fair, you aren't flying around 19 or 50 or 70 or 90 people either.

Merlyn

Actually, some of us in the military did just that.

Big Duke 6

Some of us have done BOTH.

Clue32

Every thing that comes out of the mouth of Mr. Cohen is political spin intended to protect the Regional Airline and Major Airline Management from taking the blame they deserve. He is not interested in improving lifestyles for the employees of the Regional Airlines. He is not interested in making radial increases in aviation safety. He is not interested in changing the current modus operendi for Mainline Aircarriers. If he supported and did anything to improve the airline industry for the good of the public he would cut into the bottom line of the balance sheets for the airlines he represents. Mr. Cohen represents the executives, not the pilots.

Here is a thought: Federally mandated minimum wage for all aircraft carrying over 19 passengers, say $35 per flight hour adjusted every 5 years for inflation, the same for aircraft carrying over 50 passengers but set it at $40 per flight hour. ATP licence required to serve as PIC or FO on an aircraft carrying over 19 passengers. Restrict aircraft with less then 75 seats from flying between communities with a metropolitan population in excess of 150,000. Finally, give the NTSB regulatory power to so that they can mandate faults in the Federal Regulations get changed (with an executive veto option).

waflyboy

How did the media pick up on the notion that commuters chose to live out of base to save money? I've never heard any commuter claim that reason, myself included.

atpcliff

Hi!

A lot of people commute to save money.

When I got my job in Detroit, a move would've cost us a TON. Housing and food prices were MUCH higher in DTW, and my CEO would've lost her job if we moved, costing us WAY more than I made.

LOTS of people commute because of lower living costs/job availability where they live vs. where they are based.

cliff
NBO

robthree

Are you kidding? In what world do you live that moving from wherever you lived before you got this job to a hub city would save you money?
In fact, to save money is the only reason for commuting. Its why people drive 4 hours each way for a NYC job. You can not afford the lifestyle in Manhattan that you can 2, 3, or 4 hours outside of town.

Likewise, the affordability of an apartment in BOS, EWR, PHL, DCA, MIA, ORD, LAX, etc, etc, is incomparable to your parent's basement, no matter where it is.

Bottom line, there are a lot of regional FO jobs in places a regional FO's wages won't do the trick.