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05-20-2009 | 06:37 AM
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I find the term "abusing sick time" amusing. How can you abuse something that you have earned? I find it hard to believe that most companies require sick notes when employees take sick time. I have never heard anyone I know outside of the industry having to do this in order to take a sick day.
If the argument of earned vs. given comes up, think of this: If you left the company and had two-weeks vacation left and five-days sick time, what do you think you're entitled to on your last check? I guarantee you wouldn't get paid for the sick time.
05-20-2009 | 07:34 AM
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Why can't you admit its a backwards policy. What company is dumb enough to pay for its employees to go to the doctor when 100% of the time the doctor is going to write a note stating the employee came in for a visit?
05-20-2009 | 08:06 AM
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From: Devil's Advocate
0 = $600
1 = $400
2 = $200
3 = $100
4 or more = SOL
Those numbers aren't exact but they are pretty close. And since I'm furloughed, I haven't seen a dime for my vacation time I earned but never got to use.
05-20-2009 | 10:02 AM
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05-20-2009 | 10:13 AM
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That is EXACTLY how it was at United. If they want a doctors note, they pay for it! One guy went as far as making an appointment with the Mayo clinic, when the company demanded a doctors note. They ran a battery of tests on him. Sent UA the bill for it, which cost somewhere close to $20,000. Needless to say, they immediately suspended this type of scare tactic!
05-20-2009 | 10:14 AM
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05-20-2009 | 11:29 AM
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I dont know why anyone would answer a phone call from the CP after calling in sick. Dont answer it, he cant tell you to bring in a doc note. By the time you get back to the line they have forgotten about it. Moving on....
05-20-2009 | 11:40 AM
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That's not true at XJT. The CP doesn't call you. You get a nasty-gram about a week after the occurrence.
According to a union rep, no one has ever been fired for sick calls. At XJT, you have 3 sick calls allowed in a rolling 12 months and you get a nasty gram after the 4th. The 5th, 6th, and 7th will get you called in to the CPO for a meeting. My understanding is the rule basically stems from a lawsuit. A previous CP rarely enforced sick call abuse unless you were already a trouble maker. One guy was fired for many, many things and sick calls entered into the decision somehow. So they instituted a hard and fast rule across the board.
According to a union rep, no one has ever been fired for sick calls. At XJT, you have 3 sick calls allowed in a rolling 12 months and you get a nasty gram after the 4th. The 5th, 6th, and 7th will get you called in to the CPO for a meeting. My understanding is the rule basically stems from a lawsuit. A previous CP rarely enforced sick call abuse unless you were already a trouble maker. One guy was fired for many, many things and sick calls entered into the decision somehow. So they instituted a hard and fast rule across the board.
05-20-2009 | 03:10 PM
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Have you ever tried calling crew scheduling between the hours of midnight and 5 AM?
Why can't you admit its a backwards policy. What company is dumb enough to pay for its employees to go to the doctor when 100% of the time the doctor is going to write a note stating the employee came in for a visit?
Why can't you admit its a backwards policy. What company is dumb enough to pay for its employees to go to the doctor when 100% of the time the doctor is going to write a note stating the employee came in for a visit?
It's not up to the company to pay for the doctor visit. You know the rules going in, so it's up to you. Most people have insurance with a ~$20 co-pay, so it's not a big deal.
It does seem that airlines have different policies regarding this than the majority of other industries.
Our contract at TSA said that they would look back 120 days from the day an employee separated from the company (under good circumstances i.e. not fired) and give you a bonus based on the number of days you called in sick.
0 = $600
1 = $400
2 = $200
3 = $100
4 or more = SOL
Those numbers aren't exact but they are pretty close. And since I'm furloughed, I haven't seen a dime for my vacation time I earned but never got to use.
0 = $600
1 = $400
2 = $200
3 = $100
4 or more = SOL
Those numbers aren't exact but they are pretty close. And since I'm furloughed, I haven't seen a dime for my vacation time I earned but never got to use.
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