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05-20-2009, 10:02 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by Mason32
That email violates so many labor laws, and prior legal decisions that I wish it were my company that had sent it out.....
05-20-2009, 10:13 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by OnMyWay
That is EXACTLY how it was at United. If they want a doctors note, they pay for it! One guy went as far as making an appointment with the Mayo clinic, when the company demanded a doctors note. They ran a battery of tests on him. Sent UA the bill for it, which cost somewhere close to $20,000. Needless to say, they immediately suspended this type of scare tactic!
05-20-2009, 10:14 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by Dangling Unit
Scenerio: Memorial day is coming up. An employee has no vacation left (vacation is earned), but has sick time left (sick time isn't earned - it's given). T
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05-20-2009, 11:29 AM
#34
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I dont know why anyone would answer a phone call from the CP after calling in sick. Dont answer it, he cant tell you to bring in a doc note. By the time you get back to the line they have forgotten about it. Moving on....
05-20-2009, 11:40 AM
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That's not true at XJT. The CP doesn't call you. You get a nasty-gram about a week after the occurrence.
According to a union rep, no one has ever been fired for sick calls. At XJT, you have 3 sick calls allowed in a rolling 12 months and you get a nasty gram after the 4th. The 5th, 6th, and 7th will get you called in to the CPO for a meeting. My understanding is the rule basically stems from a lawsuit. A previous CP rarely enforced sick call abuse unless you were already a trouble maker. One guy was fired for many, many things and sick calls entered into the decision somehow. So they instituted a hard and fast rule across the board.
According to a union rep, no one has ever been fired for sick calls. At XJT, you have 3 sick calls allowed in a rolling 12 months and you get a nasty gram after the 4th. The 5th, 6th, and 7th will get you called in to the CPO for a meeting. My understanding is the rule basically stems from a lawsuit. A previous CP rarely enforced sick call abuse unless you were already a trouble maker. One guy was fired for many, many things and sick calls entered into the decision somehow. So they instituted a hard and fast rule across the board.
05-20-2009, 04:02 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by Dangling Unit
It's not up to the company to pay for the doctor visit.
05-20-2009, 04:14 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by Dangling Unit
I don't work for an airline, so I wouldn't have tried to call crew scheduling. It's not a backwards policy. There are people who like to work, or abuse, the system. Policies like this are in place to protect the benefits afforded by the company.
It's not up to the company to pay for the doctor visit. You know the rules going in, so it's up to you. Most people have insurance with a ~$20 co-pay, so it's not a big deal.
It's not up to the company to pay for the doctor visit. You know the rules going in, so it's up to you. Most people have insurance with a ~$20 co-pay, so it's not a big deal.
05-20-2009, 07:59 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by Dangling Unit
It's not just the airline industry that follows those rules. In fact, I can't think of any company, airline or not, having sick time that doesn't have this policy. It's to keep employees from abusing the sick time policy. Given the chance, a lot of people would take advantage of it.
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05-20-2009, 08:26 PM
#40
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Dangling Unit
You said you don't work for an airline, so you have no leg to stand on in this discussion.
While you opinions/views may work in an office type job, or in other professions, it doesn't jive here with anyone who's actually done the job of an airline pilot.
Please keep your ignorance to yourself, and I don't mean that in the offensive way, I mean it in the literal way. You are "uneducated" on the subject, so in the spirit of keeping this thread open, please refrain from "thinking you know".....
Cause you my friend, do not know.
You said you don't work for an airline, so you have no leg to stand on in this discussion.
While you opinions/views may work in an office type job, or in other professions, it doesn't jive here with anyone who's actually done the job of an airline pilot.
Please keep your ignorance to yourself, and I don't mean that in the offensive way, I mean it in the literal way. You are "uneducated" on the subject, so in the spirit of keeping this thread open, please refrain from "thinking you know".....
Cause you my friend, do not know.
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