I love being treated like a child!
05-19-2009 | 01:31 PM
#11
APC co-founder
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From: B777
Be sure to read up on HIPAA law - there is no requirement for the note to reveal why your being treated (that's between you and your doctor, the confidentiality is protected by federal law).
If pressed by management, "I've been treated for a medical condition that precluded me from operating under Part 67, I am now fit to fly"
The Dr. note need only say that the employee was seen by a doctor.
CBA represented employees should talk to the legal dept. about any local requirements, but the take away is that an employer cannot ask you details of your HIPAA covered medical treatment.
If pressed by management, "I've been treated for a medical condition that precluded me from operating under Part 67, I am now fit to fly"
The Dr. note need only say that the employee was seen by a doctor.
CBA represented employees should talk to the legal dept. about any local requirements, but the take away is that an employer cannot ask you details of your HIPAA covered medical treatment.
05-19-2009 | 01:46 PM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Flight Instructor
[QUOTE=B00sted;613428
Pay us like a child, treat us like child, but expect us to be professionals...[/QUOTE]
Ummmm yeah. So youare telling me that your ability to act professionally is based on pay or how the company treats you? That is sad that you are dependant on others actions for YOU to act professionally. it doesnt matterhow muchthey pay me or how they treatme. I am me no matter what. And I am a professional and I wil always carry myself that way. Because to act other than that says something about my character, not the company I work for.
Pay us like a child, treat us like child, but expect us to be professionals...[/QUOTE]
Ummmm yeah. So youare telling me that your ability to act professionally is based on pay or how the company treats you? That is sad that you are dependant on others actions for YOU to act professionally. it doesnt matterhow muchthey pay me or how they treatme. I am me no matter what. And I am a professional and I wil always carry myself that way. Because to act other than that says something about my character, not the company I work for.
05-19-2009 | 02:08 PM
#13
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From: Non-flying Pilot
it goes both ways.
if we act like slobs and idiots in the terminal and cockpit in front of the passengers, then why should we expect to be paid more and have better working conditions when contract talks come?
but just the same, if an airline pays $16,000 annually to first officers, then why should they expect anything better than slobs and idiots?
if the pilot group delivers an excellent product, then they have a solid foundation to stand on during contract negotiations.
if we act like slobs and idiots in the terminal and cockpit in front of the passengers, then why should we expect to be paid more and have better working conditions when contract talks come?
but just the same, if an airline pays $16,000 annually to first officers, then why should they expect anything better than slobs and idiots?
if the pilot group delivers an excellent product, then they have a solid foundation to stand on during contract negotiations.
05-19-2009 | 03:03 PM
#15
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Reclined
"As is the custom on holidays, please be aware that a Doctor's note validating any absences during the upcoming weekend to include Saturday, Sunday, Memorial Day and the day after will be required."
Pay us like a child, treat us like child, but expect us to be professionals...
Pay us like a child, treat us like child, but expect us to be professionals...
That email violates so many labor laws, and prior legal decisions that I wish it were my company that had sent it out.....
05-19-2009 | 03:32 PM
#16
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i think pay is directly responsible for the type of person you get in a career. just look at medical professions. due to bureacrats in office trying to make medicine cheaper and the increased cost of insurance, doctors are now making less and less per year. the smartest people out there are going for different careers that actually PAY. you definitely get what you pay for, and pilots are no different. it's just too bad that pay will continue like this for a long time.
05-19-2009 | 08:57 PM
#17
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You know, you can get a perscription on line. I did it once for Ambien. You fill out a questionaire and some doctor looks at it (I guess) and decides if you're worthy for the perscription.
Why couldn't a doctor do the same with "airline management required notes from a doctor". I mean, HSLD makes the point that it's against federal law to go beyond saying "I was seen by a doctor". So, lets get a doctor to give out these notes on line for $10. The doctor can say he evaluated you via a questionaire (It would point to the fact your are sick) and that it's his on line opinion that you aren't fit for duty. You can pay for it with your VISA, print it out, and fax it in to crew scheduling or the cheif pilots office.
Why couldn't a doctor do the same with "airline management required notes from a doctor". I mean, HSLD makes the point that it's against federal law to go beyond saying "I was seen by a doctor". So, lets get a doctor to give out these notes on line for $10. The doctor can say he evaluated you via a questionaire (It would point to the fact your are sick) and that it's his on line opinion that you aren't fit for duty. You can pay for it with your VISA, print it out, and fax it in to crew scheduling or the cheif pilots office.
05-19-2009 | 11:42 PM
#18
Self Employed.
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From: Corporate Pilot
Doctor
You know, you can get a perscription on line. I did it once for Ambien. You fill out a questionaire and some doctor looks at it (I guess) and decides if you're worthy for the perscription.
Why couldn't a doctor do the same with "airline management required notes from a doctor". I mean, HSLD makes the point that it's against federal law to go beyond saying "I was seen by a doctor". So, lets get a doctor to give out these notes on line for $10. The doctor can say he evaluated you via a questionaire (It would point to the fact your are sick) and that it's his on line opinion that you aren't fit for duty. You can pay for it with your VISA, print it out, and fax it in to crew scheduling or the cheif pilots office.
Why couldn't a doctor do the same with "airline management required notes from a doctor". I mean, HSLD makes the point that it's against federal law to go beyond saying "I was seen by a doctor". So, lets get a doctor to give out these notes on line for $10. The doctor can say he evaluated you via a questionaire (It would point to the fact your are sick) and that it's his on line opinion that you aren't fit for duty. You can pay for it with your VISA, print it out, and fax it in to crew scheduling or the cheif pilots office.
Skyhiigh
05-20-2009 | 03:24 AM
#19
Gets EVERY weekend off
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From: SIC
Was sick while i was at TSA (sounds like their style note). It was a weekend, and when i called DG to tell him i was sick, he reminded me that it's the weekend, and i'd be required to bring in a doctors note. I simply said "Alright, you setup the appointment, and call me back when you want me to go in" never heard another thing about it.
05-20-2009 | 03:51 AM
#20
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From: 330 B
Ummmm yeah. So youare telling me that your ability to act professionally is based on pay or how the company treats you? That is sad that you are dependant on others actions for YOU to act professionally. it doesnt matterhow muchthey pay me or how they treatme. I am me no matter what. And I am a professional and I wil always carry myself that way. Because to act other than that says something about my character, not the company I work for.
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