I honestly don't think anyone at 9E will ever deny a non-rev...it won't happen...we can vent and get all angry at how unfair everything is, but the vast vast majority of captains are decent people who will do whatever possible to help other blue-collar workers like ourselves get on a plane...

99% of us would much rather welcome non-revs and jumpseaters from ANY airline than paying pax, because the traveling public is generally lazy, fat, stupid, and complains about EVERYTHING from the size of the RJ, the cost of their already-dirt-cheap ticket, and anything that goes wrong at all on the flight "why haven't we pushed back yet, why are we 1 minute late, why is this plane so small, why is it so hot in here?"

I would boot every paying passenger possible for a pilot, non-rev, and all of their extended families if I had the choice and wouldn't lose my job over it...until they start paying pilots (and rampers and FAs) a decent wage for what we all do, the "minimum cost, maximum complaining" traveling public is more to blame for things like us losing travel benefits than our brothers and sisters on groundcrews and at other airlines....

 

To everyone who is spending thier time here complaining about our contract, travel bennies, etc... please write an email to your CA and FO rep in your domicile. If they don't know what is important to you, they won't be able to fight for what you want. You know where to find all of their information from the Union site, if you don't send me a PM and I'll tell you how to find it. You elected them, now tell them what you want, this is how a democracy works, so take advantage of it.

 

Hi!

Interesting non-rev denial.

A guy from my last airline got bumped a couple of times off of Pinnacle because the airline was not on Pinnacle's list. Interestingly, the airline was on NWA and Mesaba's list, and in CASS, and would haul any CASS pilots on their jumpseat, including Pinnacle pilots.

cliff
NBO

 

Cliff,

Unfortunately a lot of captains here are pretty ignorant when it comes to the jumpseat. Most assume if you're not on the recip-agreement list then you cannot jumpseat with us. Not true. If you're CASS approved, then at the captain's discretion you are welcome aboard. He could have jumped with us.

 

Any crew memeber trying to go home or work should be allowed to get on.. with a strong exception to Gojets... cass approved for Delta flights but not on 9E's aircraft.

 

I don't commute but fly with many that do and almost every single pilot that commutes does not even consider Pinnacle as an option if the flight is almost full. They say they have a better chance sitting on the john than in a CR2 jumpseat.

The compass/mesaba might have the same priority as mainline DAL and CMR on pinnacle but only after pinnacle pilots but ahead of other DCI carriers

 

I agree with this statement because my friends and I have been bumped off too many times from Pinnacle CRJ2 flights due to weight restrictions or gate agents too lazy to go back to the aircraft and make an accurate count of empty seats. We usually avoid 9E flights if we find out the flight is near full because we know chances slim we will get on, so we try to get a ride with either NWA/XJ/CZ or DAL/SWA flights operating on mainline aircraft, which usually works better.

This is not to say Pinnacle pilots are not friendly towards jumpseaters. Quite the opposite is true. In fact, from my own experience, Pinnacle pilots in general have been friendlier than Compass pilots towards XJ pilots. And we try to extend the same courtesy to Pinnacle pilots on our aircraft. Come to think of it, I have never left behind any Pinnacle pilot from XJ flight.

 

Its not Pinnacle pilots fault (99%) of the time if you don't get on. The CRJ200 (not sure about the almighty 9 ) has weight and balance issues (nose heavy) and landing weight issues when you have an alternate airport.

The majority of Gate Agents for Pinnacle flights are Mesaba. A few of them think they control the jumpseat because ops tells them its weight restricted. They won't even tell the CA that there is a jumpseater. I would suggest you ask to go speak with the CA if this happens to you.

I know I do everything possible to get a jumpseater on.

And BTW
CONTRACT NOW!!!!!!

 

9E jumpseat has always been good to me. I once had a captain on 9E fly at a lower altitude to burn off fuel because of a landing weight issue, just so I could get on. This same captain was in the jumpseat on our flight on my next trip, and i turned down a meal so he could eat instead.

 

Nice bro! Wish there were more pilots like you and him!