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Old 06-24-2009 | 11:52 AM
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I think I was asking you a question? Is that the attitude at Republic?
No, that is not the attitude.

Originally Posted by johnso29
Are you ready to take responsibility if your pilot group fails to get industry leading wages? Will YOU be ready to stop blaming others? Be prepared to eat your own words IF you & your pilot group fails the rest of the industry.
I'll take responsibility for my actions. And I wasn't blaming anyone, I was merely asking others to take responsibility for their actions.
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Old 06-24-2009 | 11:57 AM
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In an announcement Tuesday, Republic said it will purchase Delta codeshare partner Midwest from TPG Capital, a Texas investment firm...Under terms of the acquisition, Republic will pay $31 million – $6 million in cash and a $25 million, five-year note convertible to Republic stock. Midwest will become a wholly owned subsidiary and will continue to operate as a branded carrier.

Republic also will buy Frontier in a proposal that would help that carrier emerge from Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Under terms of the deal announced Monday, Frontier will become a wholly owned subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings after the company serves as the equity sponsor for Frontier’s reorganization plan and buys 100% of the equity in the reorganized company. The cost to Republic will be nearly $109 million. The deal would require a court-supervised auction, at which another buyer could outbid Republic.
Does anyone else smell something fishy about this convoluted deal? I suspect hidden motives and beneficiaries.
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Old 06-24-2009 | 12:13 PM
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What is a "fair and equitable" merger of a National Airline and a Regional Airline?
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Old 06-24-2009 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Does anyone else smell something fishy about this convoluted deal? I suspect hidden motives and beneficiaries.
Well of course, there are countless ways you can spin this. Like Lorenzo, Bedford will find a way to maximize this to his benefit no matter who gets hurt in the process. For all we know the Frontier thing might be a way to get them out of Denver (as previously stated by some), sell he assets and the employees go bye bye, while UA takes care of RAH through their CPA. As far as the Midwest thing goes, well, I'm not sure what the reverend is go in mind there, but SWA and Airtran are already moving in on that turf, which means that even with the POS rates he pays his pilots on the 190, he's going to have to get very creative to compete in the big leagues. But again, like Lorenzo, Bedford will find a way to make money on it, regardless of what it may do to his workforce or anyone else for that matter.

...and you all thought that spineless deals only happened in wall street!
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Old 06-24-2009 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratherbeoffwork
I hope you are too proud to work at RAH, because I don't want to work with someone that's too proud for thier own good. If its not good enough for you. Walk away. It's never going to be good enough for you. Midwest was run into the ground by your management. Everyone that worked there had at least some responsibility in that.
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It was before my time. And it is my fault since I decided to work here. (I guess if you think of it that way) We are in negotiations though. Those rates will be higher.
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Or you could have had a scope clause, not allowing this to happen in the first place. Then we wouldn't have to worry about RAH. Midwest wouldn't exist anymore.

Or was that whole scope clause thing before your time?
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Those good old boys, working in the good old days, sold us all out. They got thiers, gave up scope, and now regionals are more powerful than some majors. Thank them.
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I'll take responsibility for my actions. And I wasn't blaming anyone, I was merely asking others to take responsibility for their actions.
No, you're not blaming anyone.
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Old 06-24-2009 | 01:26 PM
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I really envy what RAH is doing.
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Old 06-24-2009 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy
I really envy what RAH is doing.

I don't. I am so glad I don't work for RAH.
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Old 06-24-2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Does anyone else smell something fishy about this convoluted deal? I suspect hidden motives and beneficiaries.
BB doesnt do anything without okaying it with his mainline overlords. I think in a year or two, we'll look back on this and it will be as convoluted as a conspiracy novel.
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Old 06-24-2009 | 04:05 PM
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Maybe it has already been said but...

Given that RAH pilots are in negotiations it is now up to them as a pilot group to demand industry-leading wages. Before they accept a new contract it is not fair to blame them for decisions their management made.

The recent growth made by RAH proves they are not in financial trouble and it's now up to the pilots of RAH to galvanize and demand fair pay.

It's disheartening what's happened at Midwest and Frontier but right now RAH pilots have the opportunity to step up to the plate and move forward in the right direction. Given the media spotlight on regional pay, an NMB that respects the RLA, and the deep pockets of RAH, and they have every right to hold out until they are paid at least JetBlue wages.

Anything short of that would prove that RAH pilots aren't willing to stand up for this profession, and such bitterness towards them would THEN be deserved.
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Old 06-24-2009 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by shimmydamp
Maybe it has already been said but...

Given that RAH pilots are in negotiations it is now up to them as a pilot group to demand industry-leading wages. Before they accept a new contract it is not fair to blame them for decisions their management made.

The recent growth made by RAH proves they are not in financial trouble and it's now up to the pilots of RAH to galvanize and demand fair pay.

It's disheartening what's happened at Midwest and Frontier but right now RAH pilots have the opportunity to step up to the plate and move forward in the right direction. Given the media spotlight on regional pay, an NMB that respects the RLA, and the deep pockets of RAH, and they have every right to hold out until they are paid at least JetBlue wages.

Anything short of that would prove that RAH pilots aren't willing to stand up for this profession, and such bitterness towards them would THEN be deserved.
Good post! Agree 100%.
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