Those good old boys, working in the good old days, sold us all out. They got thiers, gave up scope, and now regionals are more powerful than some majors. Thank them.

 

Are you one of those pilots that are afraid if they are paid too much they will put the company out of business, 'cause if your attitude is the norm at Repubic then your contract negotiations are over already.

 

I'd like to see industry leading rates. I never said I wouldn't. All I said is that people should take some responsibility and stop blaming others (especially other pilot groups). As for the norm at Republic, where do you get your information? From here? How many of the 2000 pilots there do you talk to with a roll over and take it attitude? Or are you just assuming as usual?

 

We all know staples are against the law now anyway but I ask you... Let's say Southwest bought Frontier instead of Republic... would you expect to be given some sort of preference being brought onto Southwest's list? It would seem to me that would be a windfall for career progression, you just went from a failing bankrupt airline to Southwest.... the only issue here really is the supposed difference between a regional and a major and the arrogance that a major pilot deserves a spot ahead of a regional guy basically just because. Now don't get me wrong, I want there to be majors with good pay for everyone to aspire to... but the basic issue here really is that seniority ISN'T portable like any other industry. Using any other industry as a model a 20 year veteran IS worth more than a 2 year veteran, he can send his resume to other companies and get a wage reflecting his greater experience. In the airlines, if you left Midwest or Frontier for Southwest or Delta or wherever .... you AREN'T worth more than a 1 yr veteran. That's the unfortunate system that is the airlines, if we think that's unfair (and I do) then maybe we need to figure out how to fix it, in the mean time I guess any seniority Midwest or Frontier guys got at Republic beyond a staple would be bonus... I'm sorry that it's regional seniority.

 

While the issue hasn't been brought up in this thread, a lot of people have talked about the benefits of one national seniority list. If that were the case, everything would be DOH integration, right? It wouldn't matter who bought who or whether it was a merger or not, right? So as a mildly amused observer of this thread, I'd suggest DOH is the most fair/unfair to everyone. After all, if there was one list across the board, that would be the result.

 

Sure. The 300 furloughees, some of whom were $150 an hour Capts. last year will be essentially new hire F/Os when RAH recalls them.

Or less (see above).

 

Let me add that I'm not slamming RAH pilots. As some have mentioned, the pilots didn't have a say in this decision. We all need to wait and see how the new pay rates end up.

 

May not be a done deal yet...from deltanet:

"Republic Airways Holdings of Indianapolis has announced plans to buy Denver-based Frontier Airlines and Milwaukee-based Midwest Airlines, news media reported.

In an announcement Tuesday, Republic said it will purchase Delta codeshare partner Midwest from TPG Capital, a Texas investment firm. The sale would end 25 years of local control for the largest airline to fly out of Milwaukee’s Mitchell International Airport.

Under terms of the acquisition, Republic will pay $31 million – $6 million in cash and a $25 million, five-year note convertible to Republic stock. Midwest will become a wholly owned subsidiary and will continue to operate as a branded carrier.

Republic also will buy Frontier in a proposal that would help that carrier emerge from Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Under terms of the deal announced Monday, Frontier will become a wholly owned subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings after the company serves as the equity sponsor for Frontier’s reorganization plan and buys 100% of the equity in the reorganized company. The cost to Republic will be nearly $109 million. The deal would require a court-supervised auction, at which another buyer could outbid Republic.

Republic Airways Holdings operates Delta Connection carriers Chautauqua Airlines and Shuttle America as well as Republic Airlines. Those airlines offer scheduled passenger service on about 1,200 flights daily to 101 cities in 37 states, Canada and Mexico through airline services agreements with seven U.S. airlines, including Midwest."


For Frontier pilots sake, hope there's another bidder!

 

I think I was asking you a question? Is that the attitude at Repubic?

 

Let's see,

DOH? = RAH pilots get screwed

Age? = RAH pilots get screwed

Flying time? = RAH pilots get screwed

Jet time? = RAH pilots get screwed

Jet Time over 100,00#? = RAH pilots get screwed

OK, how about turboprop time? = RAH pilots still screwed

Time in a non-standard holding pattern picking up ice? = RAH pilots are STILL screwed

So the only logical conclusion is, screw the Frontier and Midex guys