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06-24-2009 | 06:20 AM

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Dougdrvr

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On another side note, the F9 work rules are some of the best in the industry. They can manipulate their schedules in ways you only dream about. That is why their rates are lower then CAL, SWA, JB

And your FO scale equals RAH CA in what? 3 years?

06-24-2009 | 06:28 AM

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PM me the story, please, please, please. I need verification of what I thought all along.

I don't know about the the DCA thing, but he did post on here about how he flew a completely unstable approach in a Metro (or something like that), then go mad because people criticized him for it. It was pretty funny.

06-24-2009 | 07:54 AM

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Does teamsters make RAH pilots pay dues from day 1, or is there a probationary period and you don't pay dues till you're off it?

They pay dues from day 1

06-24-2009 | 08:04 AM

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And your FO scale equals RAH CA in what? 3 years?

I hope you are too proud to work at RAH, because I don't want to work with someone that's too proud for thier own good. If its not good enough for you. Walk away. It's never going to be good enough for you. Midwest was run into the ground by your management. Everyone that worked there had at least some responsibility in that.

06-24-2009 | 08:11 AM

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So if Midwest and Frontier pilots are at least somewhat responsible for their airline's collapse does that also make you somewhat responsible for allowing E-190s to be flown for such abominable wages? Or was that before your time and not your fault?

06-24-2009 | 08:16 AM

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It was before my time. And it is my fault since I decided to work here. (I guess if you think of it that way) We are in negotiations though. Those rates will be higher.

06-24-2009 | 08:16 AM

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Ding ding ding....Weee have a winner here.

06-24-2009 | 08:20 AM

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Ding ding ding....Weee have a winner here.

Or you could have had a scope clause, not allowing this to happen in the first place. Then we wouldn't have to worry about RAH. Midwest wouldn't exist anymore.

Or was that whole scope clause thing before your time?

06-24-2009 | 08:26 AM

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The scope thing is a non-issue. Frontier will get its contract taken apart by the bankruptcy judge. In the end, airline management finds a way around scope one way or another. My point is that we can blame pilots for all this but in the end its the managers of the airlines that steer the course and we're, for the most part, just along for the ride.

The only way pilots will be paid well is if the economics of the airlines change. Whether on its own (global economics, customer tastes) or through legislation (abolish RLA, pilot minimum wage, etc). Unions have some power over this, like Continental, but for the most part if management has the incentive they'll find a way. Just ask any CAL pilot how their scope worked with the Q400s.