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av8tordude 06-23-2009 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by xjtr (Post 633826)
(4): one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms

Get a grip and put the crack pipe down...It clearly is talking about working for less than union wages at the company the person works for NOT the other company! We all would be considered scabs since most CBA's don't equally compare to others.

shimmydamp 06-23-2009 02:08 PM

Are RAH pilots currently in negotiations?

Mason32 06-23-2009 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 633762)
How is it easy? They have contracts that are legally binding do they not?


Those types of contracts typically include non-competition clauses.
RAH will get dropped.... but by the looks of it.... they can combine Frontier and Midwest into a nice little big airplane airline doing the long haul for all their feeder regionals...

jsled 06-23-2009 02:20 PM

Lets see how RAH does when they have to run an airline...not a fee for departure service. Airlines have reservations, marketing, and corporate sales. They do market research to determine their routes, they don't have a daddy to tell them where to fly. It did not work out so well for Indy or ExpressJet. Sure, F9 and Midwest are real airlines, but we will see how motivated their employees are when they get their pay haircut. This is no sure thing. Could be brilliant, could be just another flash in the pan. It certainly confuses the relationship of RAH and the legacies. JMHO.

stlcfii 06-23-2009 02:44 PM

Does no one see that by Republic buying these airlines they are saving thousands of jobs by keeping them from going out of business? If they disappeared, everyone would be complaining about how their management failed them or how other airlines drove them out of business. It will be up to the pilots to come together and make a new CBA with an acceptable level of pay. I can see Republic losing some 'regional' flying, but it'd be turned into 'code shares' instead. Heck, the Midwest purchase already has the Delta code share in it and Mokulele has code shares with Alaska and West Jet. Time will tell........

Fletch727 06-23-2009 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by stlcfii (Post 633878)
Does no one see that by Republic buying these airlines they are saving thousands of jobs by keeping them from going out of business? If they disappeared, everyone would be complaining about how their management failed them or how other airlines drove them out of business. It will be up to the pilots to come together and make a new CBA with an acceptable level of pay. I can see Republic losing some 'regional' flying, but it'd be turned into 'code shares' instead. Heck, the Midwest purchase already has the Delta code share in it and Mokulele has code shares with Alaska and West Jet. Time will tell........


As well as an agreement with Continental signed a month or two ago.

benairguitar23 06-23-2009 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by shimmydamp (Post 633840)
Are RAH pilots currently in negotiations?

Yes they are. Hopefully they will be able to negotiate at least JetBlue wages.

xtreme 06-23-2009 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by benairguitar23 (Post 633900)
Yes they are. Hopefully they will be able to negotiate at least JetBlue wages.

HA..........

BoilerUP 06-23-2009 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
So save your preaching, and your "holier than thou" attitude for someone else, open your eyes.

I had a nice long response written, but then I thought better of it for both my reputation on this board and my overall sanity.

But in a nutshell - my eyes are open Saab; having an outsider's perspective provides clarity and objectivity. The real question is are your eyes open?

Would you rather have bleeding airlines continue to bleed to the point of death, or would you rather have those airlines bought (even by a company you've loathed since they "took your flying") and allowed to continue surviving, providing gainful employment to those pilots (your professional colleagues & union brothers) who can work with and strengthen the current RAH pilot group to get a new CBA with compensation and work rules worthy of all involved parties?

And believe me, I'm not preaching.

CTPILOT 06-23-2009 03:35 PM

not surprised by this, now curious to see what RAH does with the seniority list and fleet


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