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StallFail 07-13-2009 08:21 AM
What I really don't get is why the company didn't offer extended COMA's, LOA's, retirement packages, etc. At least with the last round, they were nice enough to pretend to care about the pilot group.

Thanks Brad Holt! :mad:

Also, I just talked to a buddy at SkyWest, and he was denied a 12 month personal LOA recently. I just don't get it... ASA furloughs, but SkyWest denies LOA's...?

JustAnotherPLT 07-13-2009 08:25 AM
That brings up another point, good to see we are on round two and SkyWest has not furloughed yet.

FlyASA 07-13-2009 08:28 AM
Originally Posted by StallFail (Post 644141)
What I really don't get is why the company didn't offer extended COMA's, LOA's, retirement packages, etc. At least with the last round, they were nice enough to pretend to care about the pilot group.

Thanks Brad Holt! :mad:

Also, I just talked to a buddy at SkyWest, and he was denied a 12 month personal LOA recently. I just don't get it... ASA furloughs, but SkyWest denies LOA's...?
I've come to accept the fact that no Skywest pilot will be furloughed as long as there are ASA pilots to furlough. They'll simply transfer the flying we have to themselves to avoid furloughing on their side. I've got friends at Skywest so I'm not ****ed at anyone there and I hope none of them get furloughed but it does suck from our perspective when we are taking the brunt of everything bad. We really are the red headed step child.


On a seperate note I guess they never found flying for those 20 CRJ-200s.

Avroman 07-13-2009 08:34 AM
Originally Posted by FlyASA (Post 644145)
I've come to accept the fact that no Skywest pilot will be furloughed as long as there are ASA pilots to furlough. They'll simply transfer the flying we have to themselves to avoid furloughing on their side. I've got friends at Skywest so I'm not ****ed at anyone there and I hope none of them get furloughed but it does suck from our perspective when we are taking the brunt of everything bad. We really are the red headed step child.

Nope that honor seems solidly secure at Comair

On a seperate note I guess they never found flying for those 20 CRJ-200s.

Not to sound like a jerk but, shocking:rolleyes:
It would have been great for you but for anyone to expect to find new places to fly any 50 seat jets is well.... I probably have a better chance being invited to the grotto at Hef's place.
Filler Filler....

Gunga Galunga 07-13-2009 09:08 AM
Originally Posted by StallFail (Post 644141)
What I really don't get is why the company didn't offer extended COMA's, LOA's, retirement packages, etc. At least with the last round, they were nice enough to pretend to care about the pilot group.

Thanks Brad Holt! :mad:

Also, I just talked to a buddy at SkyWest, and he was denied a 12 month personal LOA recently. I just don't get it... ASA furloughs, but SkyWest denies LOA's...?

Correct me if I am wrong, but we didn't offer health benefits with our LOA's like SKW is now, did we? That might be one reason why less people accepted them. ASA is and will continue to be the perennial loser in the current relationship we have with the parent company and DAL. I agree to at least offer these leaves to make it seem like the company cares. These furloughs could have been mitigated by additional leave packages on par with what skw is putting out. Cant argue with facts and ASA has now managed to furlough 130+ back to Nov 07, lose airframes, lose most and soon to be all ground handling stations, facing possible maintenance consolidation and implemented North Korea style censorship on OurASA. The st george dream is turning into a nightmare for those affected

FlyASA 07-13-2009 09:09 AM
Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 644147)
Filler Filler....
We aren't owned by Delta so we can't be the red headed step child of Delta, we are the red headed step child of Skywest

flyths1 07-13-2009 09:17 AM
How many ASAs will be put out to pature till better days if that even happens.

surreal1221 07-13-2009 09:42 AM
Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga (Post 644120)
ASA is really going down the right road with uncle rico at the helm
Oh I'm pretty sure the honeymoon is over with. Well, at least for the junior portion of the pilot group. Watching their aviation future melt away at the hands of our management and Delta. But, we're not alone in this mess - every DCI company is getting slapped around like a little girl.

Good luck to the rest of the boys / girls hitting the street. This career is one hell of a fun ride. 40+ more years of this nonsense, yeah - no thanks.

FlyASA 07-13-2009 10:05 AM
Originally Posted by surreal1221 (Post 644186)
Oh I'm pretty sure the honeymoon is over with. Well, at least for the junior portion of the pilot group. Watching their aviation future melt away at the hands of our management and Delta. But, we're not alone in this mess - every DCI company is getting slapped around like a little girl.

Good luck to the rest of the boys / girls hitting the street. This career is one hell of a fun ride. 40+ more years of this nonsense, yeah - no thanks.
I'd say it's more like we are getting clubbed like baby seals ;)

BoredwLife 07-13-2009 10:09 AM
What are the numbers looking like? Anyone have a guess?


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