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07-21-2009 | 08:09 AM
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The companies RAH owns flies for majors, so unless RAH keeps Midwest and Frontier on seperate seniority lists (can they do that or do they have to merge lists?) they'll have a serious conflict of issue. It might be a spirt of the law vs. letter of the law debate but with good enough laweyers a judge could find RAH in violation of their contracts with their major partners. After all this is America.
You can argue all the legal technicalities you want but when you get down to it RAH is biting the hand that feeds it and thus there could be some serious ramifications.
You can argue all the legal technicalities you want but when you get down to it RAH is biting the hand that feeds it and thus there could be some serious ramifications.
07-21-2009 | 08:16 AM
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There are three separate certificates. With that there are no violations of compete clauses. You can't seriously think they'd go through all this trouble without considering this. Skywest flies for United and Delta doesn't that sound like a conflict of interest to you?
07-21-2009 | 08:16 AM
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WHEN (yes when, not if) United and/or Airways go into bankruptcy RAH will be in a better position than had they not made these purchases. Also remember Southwest is not invincible.. Frontier is actually doing better than SWA in Denver; higher load factors and lower CASM. Because of many factors, yes crew pay being a very small overall factor, RAH WILL likely be able to compete on a cost basis; crew::airplane ratio, huge economies of scale with the E-Jets, et cetera.
Life and Capitalism are a *****. Here in the US you are not entitled to anything outside your inalienable rights endowed by your Creator. You are given an equal opportunity and that does not mean you are entitled to equal results.
Life and Capitalism are a *****. Here in the US you are not entitled to anything outside your inalienable rights endowed by your Creator. You are given an equal opportunity and that does not mean you are entitled to equal results.
What you should be doing is asking that hypocrite CEO of yours for mainline wages on the 190's and seniority integration to avoid whipsaw. But hey, keep on defending Bedford's actions in the name of capitalism, one of these days it will be your job he comes after, and it might put things in perpective for you.
07-21-2009 | 08:36 AM
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There are three separate certificates. With that there are no violations of compete clauses. You can't seriously think they'd go through all this trouble without considering this. Skywest flies for United and Delta doesn't that sound like a conflict of interest to you?
I think BB did think about all of the possibilities and I think he is betting the company with this move. It's a huge gamble with the possibility of a huge reward. If he succeeds, RAH will become the first ULCC and he will have reinvented the industry. No one could touch his low cost model with out significant concessions from their labor groups. At that point it would matter if he lost or didn't get his express contracts or didn't have them renewed
07-21-2009 | 08:36 AM
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Me thinks you got so upset that you typed before thinking...
care to rephrase the second sentence?
07-21-2009 | 08:40 AM
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There are three separate certificates. With that there are no violations of compete clauses. You can't seriously think they'd go through all this trouble without considering this. Skywest flies for United and Delta doesn't that sound like a conflict of interest to you?
There is a difference between flying subcontracted spoke routes, and flying in direct competition against the mainline partner on their routes...
9 airlines in the last 1.5 years
Mesa on the verge, and RAH about to overextend themselves...
Hopefully this will be the end of RAH
07-21-2009 | 08:48 AM
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What would happen if RAH bought CAL and UAL and created a super ULCC. I think this might actually happen given the state of the industry. I think this could be the end of the industry as we know it. So sad it has come to this.
07-21-2009 | 09:00 AM
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BOND:
If you don't like the industry or where it might be going, you are free to leave. Talk with your feet not your keyboard cowboy.
There is a reason airline pilots are not making $500k per year.. there is also a reason dinosaurs are extinct..
If you don't like the industry or where it might be going, you are free to leave. Talk with your feet not your keyboard cowboy.
There is a reason airline pilots are not making $500k per year.. there is also a reason dinosaurs are extinct..
07-21-2009 | 09:30 AM
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I was wondering if any Midwest pilot could share with everyone in how Midwest got here. Start in 2006, right as Airtran was making the first offer. All I keep hearing is it's RAH's fault.
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