Anything that can strengthen and improve the regionals is a good thing and any method of raising the bar should be embraced.

Bingo! You can probably bet that Colgan, Continental, Pinnacle, Bombardier and any company involved with the airplane are being sued as a result of 3407!

Congress seems to be behaving fairly rationally here by pursuing a reasoned, intelligent approach... is this a sign of the End Times?

Talk is cheap. When I see some real changes I will believe it.

that would be nice to see

Moreover, Trenary said that since such records are expunged after five years, Colgan might not have been able to see Renslow's entire test record.

:confused:

What? If I failed a check ride over 5 years ago it is not in my records. Do I understand that correctly?

Does anyone have more information on this?

The so-called, "single-level" of safety that is being qouted by industry and gov't leaders is one of the biggest lies in all of aviation. A product of deep-rooted corruption at the highest levels of government and industry. It truly makes me sick hearing this being cited...We must face it, our profession and industry are mere shadows of themselves.
Unless and until we get relieft from the RLA things simply will not change. Unless ALPA gets it's act together and presses for a single seniority list. Things will not change. CJC 3407 is going to go quietly into the night, and in the end real change that effects our QOL, pay and benefits is not going to happen. The slim margains, high fixed costs and per-departure fee structure of the regional/codeshare partnership doesn't allow for the funds required to effect our lives. What will effect is going to be a new and ridiculous set of rules that further errod the authorty, initiative and freedom of action that was once the Pilot-in-Command. Centralized systems are a proven failure, and it will fail in the airline industry when they start screwing around with even more burdensome regulations...

Rant complete,

ex-Navy Rotorhead

He may have been referring to PRIA, which only requires that airline records go back five years.

I don't think FAA records ever expire (except letters of warning).

Wouldn't that just bite the big one for:

Republic Air Holdings
Republic Airlines
Chitaqua (sp)
Shuttle Americrap
Midwas Airlines
Frontier Airlines

Pinnacle Air Holdings
Peanuckle Airlines
Colgan Airlines

American Eagle
American Evil Airlines
Executive Airlines
Actually for that matter:
AMR
American Airlines
American Eagle Airlines
Executive Airlines

Delta Airlines
Compass
ASA
Comair
Mesaba one other I think too...

I'm sure there are more... and I think the intention of the idea is good, but It would cause a real big mess.

And why exactly is that? are there not laws on the books that say you call fatigued when fatigued?

are there not rules at each and every one of your regional/commuter airlines that says you write a plane up when there is an observed defect?


You ALL continue to report for work on time after "scheduled" reduced rest, getting flights out on time, with aircraft that have known "small" defects that "can wait for write up until the end of the day"... Then you fly all day with several multi-hour sits between flights, and the flights still go on time due to mission mentality....

then you expect to be treated, and paid, as a "professional" after acting like that ?

Brian Bedford at Republic has PROVEN there is money in regional airlines otherwise he would not be buying two large plane operators in one month... the notion that the margins are too slim to conduct yourself as a professional, and ground aircraft that have known defects, and to not report yourself fatigued, and to get flights out on time at all costs just re-affirms that while there are many many pilots, and some of them very very very good pilots... there are NOT a lot of professionals.