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Flex81 08-19-2009 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by TPROP4ever (Post 665042)
Here is a simple observation, that I hope some people will swallow their pride and realize how they are being used....

Many are saying that Bedford wants to keep the lists seperate so he can whipsaw the Pilot Groups, but wake Up F9. He doesnt need to whipsaw you. Some of your guys have done a good job yourselves, since the day it was announced, with the way you have treated the pilot group at RAH. Now hopefully youll give them a chance and see if both groups can work together, but from some of the garbage i've been seeing posted here lately I'm not sure yet.........

Please F9 prove this wrong, I had once hoped to work for your outfit oneday, and I think their are still plenty of level heads at F9 that can and will work with the RAH group to make it better for all...

I think the original reason BB wanted to keep the lists separate was because of training costs due to SLI. BTW, most F9 pilots are FOR an SLI. We don't want a whipsaw any more than the RAH pilots. Of course it is an integration so there will probably be ugly parts, but I am confident an agreement can be reached.

STILL GROUNDED 08-19-2009 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by Dougdrvr (Post 664579)
closed today at 6.66

I wonder if the Reverend will consider that a "sign"

Yep, he just got off the phone with me. He's buying United, once they file bankruptcy.

sailingfun 08-20-2009 03:28 AM

In answer to the Delta question earlier in the thread. Delta is waiting to see how RAH integrates the different operations. If they do it in a manner that will allow Delta to terminate the contracts they will do that. If not they will honor the contracts however they will not renew any contracts with a competitor. RAH will have a window of time to achieve critical mass before there contracts start to expire. Its highly unlikely that any major airline will renew future contracts with them. They have a cushion for a couple of years and then there revenue stream from feeder contracts starts to dry up. Time will tell if they can pull it off.

MD80 08-20-2009 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by SPDBOILER (Post 664994)
Virtual scabs?!? Give me a freakin break. So YOU decide where the "virtual picket line" is formed?


The picket lines (2) were in front of the MKE airport while Republic was starting E170 operations. Midwest pilots were in contract negotiations for E190 pay scales and the company started with your 51-76 seat rate. We would not accept that rate just like Republic pilots will not accept that rate in your new contract. Midwest pilots could not legally strike... the company owners TPG (now a partner at Republic) could of locked us out legally.

Midwest had picket lines up.

I use the word "virtual scabs" because your union undermined our contract talks and showed no support for the Midwest pilots. In fact you started to brag "it's our flying now" and took steps to protect the flying.

These actions are not in the tradition of the TEAMSTERS

Tell me one thing the Republic pilots did to support the Midwest pilots? Did your local even write our local with a letter of support? Why do you think the profession considers your local a cancer?





ps. I worked construction during college
I was a Teamsters member
I hold a inactive membership

FranksNBeans 08-20-2009 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Whacker77 (Post 664522)
Branded flying prove to be a very tough venture thanks to the Buffulo crash. I think customers are going to seek out the "name" airlines, aka the majors.

Regionals have failed in their branded flying long before BUF.

MD80 08-20-2009 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by SPDBOILER (Post 664994)
Virtual scabs?!?
Not sure what the pilot group at Republic is doing wrong?


You didn't even try to support the Midwest pilots during the outsourcing of flying to Republic. This was not the normal "connect" flying contract.

Then after merging the Midwest company with Republic you come up with this integration plan......



Date: August 15, 2009
To: All Republic Airways Holdings, Inc. Pilots
From: RAH Seniority Integration Committee
Re: Upcoming Merger Integration Process

.................................................. ................................................


The only pilot groups not to have pilots on furlough is Mokulele and Lynx. Midwest will have another 41 pilots on furlough September 1st, with all of their pilots on the street by December 15th. Furloughed pilots from Midwest and Frontier cannot bid for an open slot until they are on the RAH Seniority List. However, for integration purposes, pilots who were active at the time of acquisition will be considered active for the Master Seniority List. It is the resolve of all Integration Committees to get this completed as quickly as possible so we can begin to get all of our furloughees back on property.
.................................................. .................................................


Republic pilots plan to put the outsourced pilots from Midwest on the bottom of the combine seniority list. You were used to undermine our contract talks...
- Republic pilots couldn't find a way to support us during our picketing
- Now you can't support the 200 pilots that were furloughed and have been unemployed while you flying.

Integrate All the Midwest pilots

ToiletDuck 08-20-2009 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by MD80 (Post 665303)
The picket lines (2) were in front of the MKE airport while Republic was starting E170 operations.

If it's a not a strike, which is what people refer to when they say picket line, then there was no line to cross. An informational picket doesn't count.

Joachim 08-20-2009 09:04 AM

The union has stated that all furloughs from all certificates including Midwest and Frontier will be recalled by the end of integration. This takes into account the aircraft on order and the projected loss of RJ's. They have mentioned nothing about hiring; I guess that they will have to at some point.

Joachim 08-20-2009 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 665324)
If it's a not a strike, which is what people refer to when they say picket line, then there was no line to cross. An informational picket doesn't count.

Just let it go. You can't win and you can't cure stupid. Most of these keyboard warriors are the less educated and involved; they simply regurgitate whatever slander they hear from collegues of similar erudition. ToiletDuck, you are not a scab and you haven't done anybody wrong. I see that you are on the union website, help me get everyone signed up so we can make a real difference. Ignore these BS comments and focus on the important stuff.

xtreme 08-20-2009 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Joachim (Post 665351)
You can't win and you can't cure stupid.

Sounds like a good slogan for RAH's contract negotiations...


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