Originally Posted by Flatspin

What kind of grown man would stay in barrack style housing for $30k/yr?? I think most would just find different work and not deal with it.

I think they already make things called hotels.

Originally Posted by OldManReverend

This thread is just me thinking out loud, but here are some ideas I've been thinkin about and wanted to get you guys' "Constructive opinions".

Pilot Fatigue has been one of the topics in the crash of Colgan 3407, and the other thread stating 3407 could happen again, with sleeping in the crew lounge kinda sparked me to write my thoughts out.

My brother is General Contractor, and ever since 3407, he's been a little intrigued with how crappy his little brother's QOL is. (me ) So we've been talking about different ideas such as a low cost crew hotel within the airport. Hear me out.

IDEA #1---
I've stayed at some places on an army base overseas. hundreds of bunk beds in a big open room, with scattered red lights so you can see but not bright enough to keep you from sleeping. with lockers in between bunks. community showers/ washrooms down the hall. Just a place to sleep, and thats all, dayshift, nightshift... it didnt matter it was always quiet and dark in there... seemed to work great for the military.

IDEA #2---
Actual hotel style rooms, personal bathroom, but no mini-fridge. My brother argues that civillian america won't buy the barrack-style type of housing. still not sure about whether bedding should be supplied or if it should be BYOB =). anyways. it caters to those with needs for privacy.

Pros-
-eliminates ride to hotel/crashpad
-better than a couch in the crewroom
-hopefully it's realistically cheaper than a hotel/crashpad
-on airport premises.

Cons-
-Really Possible?
-theft
-cannot be permanent address
-male F/A's

Questions...
1.) How much would you realistically be willing to spend per night for either place?
2.) How could we make this secure for pilots/crew only. ie. memberships,

Please only constructive responses please. I understand it's not going to happen tomorrow, but just lookin to get your thoughts.

Feel free to add some of your own ideas.




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Originally Posted by OldManReverend

This thread is just me thinking out loud, but here are some ideas I've been thinkin about and wanted to get you guys' "Constructive opinions".

Pilot Fatigue has been one of the topics in the crash of Colgan 3407, and the other thread stating 3407 could happen again, with sleeping in the crew lounge kinda sparked me to write my thoughts out.

My brother is General Contractor, and ever since 3407, he's been a little intrigued with how crappy his little brother's QOL is. (me ) So we've been talking about different ideas such as a low cost crew hotel within the airport. Hear me out.

IDEA #1---
I've stayed at some places on an army base overseas. hundreds of bunk beds in a big open room, with scattered red lights so you can see but not bright enough to keep you from sleeping. with lockers in between bunks. community showers/ washrooms down the hall. Just a place to sleep, and thats all, dayshift, nightshift... it didnt matter it was always quiet and dark in there... seemed to work great for the military.

IDEA #2---
Actual hotel style rooms, personal bathroom, but no mini-fridge. My brother argues that civillian america won't buy the barrack-style type of housing. still not sure about whether bedding should be supplied or if it should be BYOB =). anyways. it caters to those with needs for privacy.

Pros-
-eliminates ride to hotel/crashpad
-better than a couch in the crewroom
-hopefully it's realistically cheaper than a hotel/crashpad
-on airport premises.

Cons-
-Really Possible?
-theft
-cannot be permanent address
-male F/A's

Questions...
1.) How much would you realistically be willing to spend per night for either place?
2.) How could we make this secure for pilots/crew only. ie. memberships,

Please only constructive responses please. I understand it's not going to happen tomorrow, but just lookin to get your thoughts.

Feel free to add some of your own ideas.




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I prefer idea #___, because ___________


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some additional cons...
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Originally Posted by TransMach

I just can't believe after 35 years in this industry why we prostitute ourselves.

Just live in base, give up on the commute deal. Make the employer pay you a liveable wage and then you can start the climb back to where our profession was before it was sold out by the kids.

TransMach

Originally Posted by Pontius Pilot

Problem is living in base is unrealistic these days. I can't even count how many displacements Eagle has had in the last 12 months. Many of us have houses, spouses with good jobs, children with friends and in schools they love. You can't just up and move every time management gets a wild burr up their keisters. Commuting isn't a lifestyle choice like Peter Bowler contends, its a fact of life and a necessity.

Originally Posted by TransMach

I just can't believe after 35 years in this industry why we prostitute ourselves.

Just live in base, give up on the commute deal. Make the employer pay you a liveable wage and then you can start the climb back to where our profession was before it was sold out by the kids.

TransMach

Originally Posted by flyfresno

Singapore's airport has hotels inside security in all three terminals that cost about $25 for 6 hours. It's completely no frills, just a bed and a table with a lamp alarm clock on it. There is a bathroom 'down the hall' that is very clean and has individual shower rooms. I have always wondered why we can't have something like that here.