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Bear392 09-14-2009 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy23 (Post 678523)
There is still a lot of disgust. However, many are just flat out tired of coming on these public forums and seeing people like you calling RAH pilots "virtual scabs" or whatever made up term you guys have used. The more you guys attack the RAH pilots, the less sympathy you're going to get. The purchase of Midwest is not something the pilots can change. The ONLY thing we can do from here is move forward. Our union has said the integration of ALL airlines at the same time is in our best interest, and their logic makes sense. They are looking out for our pilot group, period. Just as yours is looking out for you.

Its kind of ironic how you guys are blasting away at us, stealing bags, etc. Then you're up in arms how we're not sympathetic enough and giving in to your every request.

What is ironic is your post. I have only stated facts on here of what is going on. NEVER once called anybody a scab, never. Have never attacked any pilots, in fact called on the pilot groups to work together to put pressure on management to bring our profession back to a profession. By the way, I also have never asked for or want any body's sympathy. I have always fought for what I have and for what I have earned.

It seems you are the one name calling with accusations.

Its kind of ironic how you guys are blasting away at us, stealing bags, etc. Then you're up in arms how we're not sympathetic enough and giving in to your every request.[/quote]

You are kidding, right, seriously! Stealing bags, etc. Seriously!

flyguy23 09-14-2009 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Bear392 (Post 678527)
What is ironic is your post. I have only stated facts on here of what is going on. NEVER once called anybody a scab, never. Have never attacked any pilots, in fact called on the pilot groups to work together to put pressure on management to bring our profession back to a profession. By the way, I also have never asked for or want any body's sympathy. I have always fought for what I have and for what I have earned.

It seems you are the one name calling with accusations.

I guess I should have been more specific. I did not mean you in particular, but the YX guys posting on this board. Those words have been said, repeatedly. Bags have been taken on at least one occasion in MKE. These childish arguments have gotten us absolutely no where. Typing this makes me realize how useles this really is. Nothing will be solved on APC outside of childish bickering and arguing. Good luck and welcome to RAH.

MD80 09-14-2009 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy23 (Post 678523)
There is still a lot of disgust. However, many are just flat out tired of coming on these public forums and seeing people like you calling RAH pilots "virtual scabs" or whatever made up term you guys have used. The more you guys attack the RAH pilots, the less sympathy you're going to get. The purchase of midwest is not something the pilots can change. The ONLY thing we can do from here is move forward. Our union has said the integtration of ALL airlines at the same time is in our best interest, and their logic makes sense. They are looking out for our pilot group, period. Just as yours is looking out for you.

Its kind of ironic how you guys are blasting away at us, stealing bags, etc. Then you're up in arms how we're not sympathetic enough and giving in to your every request.


Aren't we all going to be Republic pilots? Should your union be trying to unite us into one union?

If the answer is, YES.

Republics EXCO needs to rethink its approach because you're creating a divided membership.

LAXSAAB 09-15-2009 07:29 AM

As a furloughed RP pilot I have a big problem with RP furloughs being recalled before YX pilots that were active on the list after the purchase. Bottom line any growth in MKE should be given to Midwest pilots first. Why are furloughs still happening at YX when new A/C are arriving?

MD80 09-15-2009 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by LAXSAAB (Post 678886)
As a furloughed RP pilot I have a big problem with RP furloughs being recalled before YX pilots that were active on the list after the purchase. Bottom line any growth in MKE should be given to Midwest pilots first. Why are furloughs still happening at YX when new A/C are arriving?


I hear that the problem is with Republics EXCO. Teamster National, ALPA National and Midwest pilots are all trying to get the Republic EXCO to get the integration talks started.

Has anyone heard the reason Republics EXCO wants a single integration? What's the big deal?



ps. I hear it's not coming from the Teamster attorneys

ToiletDuck 09-15-2009 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by MD80 (Post 678942)
Has anyone heard the reason Republics EXCO wants a single integration? What's the big deal?

Well 80 there are other airlines to consider. It's not just between what Midwest wants and what RAH wants. I haven't seen anyone of you show any consideration to Frontier, Lynx, or Mokulele. I'd figure it would be more advantageous for everyone to see what everyone is proposing. I'm not speaking on behalf of the unions involved just saying if given the options I'd like to know what deal everyone is pushing for.

MD80 09-15-2009 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 678979)
Well 80 there are other airlines to consider. It's not just between what Midwest wants and what RAH wants. I haven't seen anyone of you show any consideration to Frontier, Lynx, or Mokulele. I'd figure it would be more advantageous for everyone to see what everyone is proposing. I'm not speaking on behalf of the unions involved just saying if given the options I'd like to know what deal everyone is pushing for.


OK, but why aren't meetings already schuduled on integration? We know who the players are, it's going to happen... right! Why the delaying actions by your EXCO?

I can think of only ONE reason.

ToiletDuck 09-15-2009 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by MD80 (Post 678986)
OK, but why aren't meetings already schuduled on integration? We know who the players are, it's going to happen... right! Why the delaying actions by your EXCO?

I can think of only ONE reason.

What's the reason? Those guys have a lot to go through and the Frontier purchase is not yet finalized. I can't answer why they are or are not doing anything but the world isn't out to get you regardless of what that ALPA propaganda wants everyone to believe. When only looking out for yourself it's easy to throw things around and wanting everything now but what if it were the other way around and Midwest had purchase 4 other airlines. Do you think they'd be all ready to go so quickly? Look at US Air and what those guys had to go through. That was two. Here you have five. There's a lot to go through. What if this rush to arbitration makes something much worse happen then what was being planned? Once you cross that line you can't go back. What if the Frontier guys want RAH to hold off on Midwest so they can be part of the process? (just a what if again not saying it's the case I'm simply pointing out how it might be beneficial for everyone to show some patience)

Killer51883 09-15-2009 12:20 PM

they are still waiting to hear from the company what the final fleet plan will be. they want to know how many jobs there will be so they can then develop a seniority list that will screw as few of us all as possible.

LAXSAAB 09-15-2009 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 679048)
they are still waiting to hear from the company what the final fleet plan will be. they want to know how many jobs there will be so they can then develop a seniority list that will screw as few of us all as possible.

Is this new info? Last I heard all furloughs would be back by the end of 2010. I think the IBT put this out.


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