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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
(Post 677658)
Wouldn't that mean that the 717s wouldn't be sent to the RAH pilots on the Republic certificate and the RAH pilots wouldn't be sent over to the Midwest cert? Aircraft nor pilots have been interchanged the way I read it. No 717s are flying with RAH pilots and no RAH aircraft are being flown by midwest pilots.
There are 5 companies to be integrated. It doesn't really seem that wild of an idea that they want to get them all lined up to do at once. I've only been around 121 for a few years but haven't most integrations taken more than 3 months? If so it seems a little unfair to say everyone is dragging their feet. |
I took the time to read a good number of the posts on this topic. IMO with five companies and five pilot groups and the reputation of your management unless the pilots start working together you are screwed. What I see here in that respect you are screwed. Good Luck
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
(Post 677665)
I see you guys quoting the contract, but ive yet to see how the RAH contract is being violated. The mokulele situation is being worked out like the rest. I fail to see what has been interchanged. The language was put there to prevent someone not on the RAH seniority list from flying RAH aircraft.
In regards to the integration, I can understand why you want it done immediately and seperately from the other companies. I also understand why our union wants it all done at the same time. They have chosen the latter and i'll support their decision. Maybe the arbitrator will force IBT's hand and you'll integrate before the others. That would be fine too. We'll see how it plays out. |
Edit: no good will come of this. Im finished
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
(Post 677928)
I took the time to read a good number of the posts on this topic. IMO with five companies and five pilot groups and the reputation of your management unless the pilots start working together you are screwed. What I see here in that respect you are screwed. Good Luck
Pilots are much better off working together than fighting each other. Even more so when the pilots work for the same management team. |
All we are looking for is a fair integration. Only integrating the yx pilots that were online when Republic bought us is wrong. We were in negotiations to fly the EMB 170, we sent check airman to school, we sent ground instructors to school. We lost the subcontracting grievance then everything stopped. Your CEO stated that the EMB 170's were going to be flown by yx pilots. Show us you want to work with us and integrate all yx pilots. I don't care if I'm based in MKE or LGA, Do the right thing.
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The pay will come up. We have to work together to make that happen. It is what it is!
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Originally Posted by whodee
(Post 677989)
The pay will come up. We have to work together to make that happen. It is what it is!
This is meant as a legitimate question- I hear the Republic group say "the pay will come up" all the time. Just because you say something doesn't make it so. How long have you been negotiating this new contract? How many MOUs, TA's, or votes have taken place? I am not trying to sound harsh, but come on guys, you can't just say the words and act like it will magically happen. The other statement that gripes me is "once we get the older, experienced guys from Midwest and Frontier, then we will be able to use their talents to negotiate a better contract". Just remember that as you negotiate to integrate them into your list. |
Originally Posted by whodee
(Post 677960)
All we are looking for is a fair integration. Only integrating the yx pilots that were online when Republic bought us is wrong. We were in negotiations to fly the EMB 170, we sent check airman to school, we sent ground instructors to school. We lost the subcontracting grievance then everything stopped. Your CEO stated that the EMB 170's were going to be flown by yx pilots. Show us you want to work with us and integrate all yx pilots. I don't care if I'm based in MKE or LGA, Do the right thing.
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