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Old 09-19-2009 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxcackel
Has anybody thought of how the new FAA work rules might affect the way we would write the contract for pbs. And should we wait until the rules come out?
The new rules, whatever they may be, will be more restrictive, therefore requiring more pilots. There's no sense in bargaining for something (no more furloughs) that we're going to get for free. In fact, when the new rules go into effect, I predict they'll need to bring back the furloughees anyway.
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Old 09-19-2009 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SilkySmooth
The new rules, whatever they may be, will be more restrictive, therefore requiring more pilots. There's no sense in bargaining for something (no more furloughs) that we're going to get for free. In fact, when the new rules go into effect, I predict they'll need to bring back the furloughees anyway.
Not necessarily, they can just work you more days. Granted 30/7 will stop them from taking too much advantage of that.
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Old 09-20-2009 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht
We should get what we can get now with this purposed implementation, and then adjusts for the better when we can.
Ahr u seerious?
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Old 10-15-2009 | 02:17 PM
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So the news from SH in my mailbox is that ASA is going back to flica while eBid is regeared for PBS. Does anyone have any new dirt on how the language is coming along. Most importantly, the furlough protection. We all know PBS is more efficient and saves money mostly by requiring less pilots for a certain amount of flying. Is ALPA making sure there will not be anymore furlough's after PBS is implemented?
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Old 10-15-2009 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Banshee365
So the news from SH in my mailbox is that ASA is going back to flica while eBid is regeared for PBS. Does anyone have any new dirt on how the language is coming along. Most importantly, the furlough protection. We all know PBS is more efficient and saves money mostly by requiring less pilots for a certain amount of flying. Is ALPA making sure there will not be anymore furlough's after PBS is implemented?
Read your union email.
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Old 10-15-2009 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rjboy
Take a good look at the SKYW program. Has been running for about four years now and most people prefer it to hard lines.







That's funny, because I just flew with our number 1 FO and he still can't figure out why he's not getting all his bid choices, and finding out that people junior to him are getting pairings he bid...I'm in the same boat, just not bidding number one, but there is no transparency with our PBS system, and I frequently see junior crewmembers getting pairings I didn't from my first and second layers.
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Old 10-15-2009 | 06:46 PM
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Whats funny is ASA isn't getting the PBS vendor, nor work rules that Skywest has. See, our Union negotiated our PBS with management. We didn't get it forced upon us.......

Anyhow, not saying it will be good - or bad. But, the difference in rules, vendors and setup will be wide between ASA and Skywest on this one. Hey, maybe you can threaten to unionize and piggy back off of us, again!
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Old 10-15-2009 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks
Whats funny is ASA isn't getting the PBS vendor, nor work rules that Skywest has. See, our Union negotiated our PBS with management. We didn't get it forced upon us.......

Anyhow, not saying it will be good - or bad. But, the difference in rules, vendors and setup will be wide between ASA and Skywest on this one. Hey, maybe you can threaten to unionize and piggy back off of us, again!





If that was a response to my post, I'm well aware of the "difference in rules, vendors and setup between ASA and Skyw".... You'll notice my response was to a post from someone here stating how well loved PBS was at Skyw!
As for your smug comment about unionizing...I wasn't originally hired by this company, the one I was hired at was bought by SkyWest, and I've voted for a union every time we've had a vote since then!!
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Old 10-15-2009 | 07:10 PM
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Ok. Cool......Smugness retracted.
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Old 10-15-2009 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by selcal
Read your union email.
I knew someone was going to try and come up with some smart @$$ response. Did you smile when you thought it was a good one? Answer the damn question. My email has changed recently and I havn't been able to change it in ALPA's records. If I did I probably wouldn't be posting this would I. Didn't think so.

I'm simply looking for someone to provide some answers on this, not waste a post on the thread.
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