Pinnacle pilots say NO!!
10-01-2009, 10:30 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by higney85
You obviously know nothing about our service agreements, contract, or how this process works. Not even worth my time to refute all the BS you just puked up. Sorry we found a backbone which down the line helps you at no cost to YOU.
10-05-2009, 04:22 PM
#53
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Originally Posted by TSioux55
Kudos to my fellow 9E pilots!!! We did it!!!
Originally Posted by Lone Palm
Great showing, nice job!
Originally Posted by Trip7
Hallelujah
Originally Posted by cybourg10
Great job guys, you have a lot more negotiating power than you think. After Prater's testimony yesterday Congress is going to be on Pinnacle's corporate a$$........
Originally Posted by JetJock16
CONGRATS!!!!!!!
You've sent a message to this industry and I hope the rest of us lesson. The buck stops here! No more industry average, we want respect!
You've sent a message to this industry and I hope the rest of us lesson. The buck stops here! No more industry average, we want respect!
Originally Posted by Rama04
More details to follow ...
91% of the group voted
58% said NO WAY!!!
Congrats boys!
91% of the group voted
58% said NO WAY!!!
Congrats boys!
How is just over half of people saying no, such a good thing. There is still many out there that voted other than no. I would call this a battle won that hopefully will influence the war properly. But with it so close to going the other way, I hope everyone isn't counting chickens too soon.
10-05-2009, 08:46 PM
#54
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more than two weeks later and......no word. i thought linda puchala was going to be an asset, but she is no better than the clowns bush had in there. are we going to crack this thing back open and hammer out a deal or are we going to shut 'er down?
10-06-2009, 06:48 AM
#55
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Originally Posted by flyths1
I say again its LIGHTS OUT at 9E. Delta has got a short fuse for this kind of crap. Delta doesn't need Pinchanickle Airlines. They own the Jet except the 900s they can give the 200s to Mesaba Comair blah blah blah anyone they want.
The OLD men in suits have their exit strategy in place. I think Pinchanickle plans on integrating the 900s into Colgan group....unless lawsuits from 3407 don't short circuit that plan.
Face it you will be working for scum wages or be unemployed MANAGEMENT will not negotiate with you if it betters your life....enjoy another 4 years at the table..
Time for you guys to put pressure on the NMB they are your roadblock now from sending a CLEAR message.
The OLD men in suits have their exit strategy in place. I think Pinchanickle plans on integrating the 900s into Colgan group....unless lawsuits from 3407 don't short circuit that plan.
Face it you will be working for scum wages or be unemployed MANAGEMENT will not negotiate with you if it betters your life....enjoy another 4 years at the table..
Time for you guys to put pressure on the NMB they are your roadblock now from sending a CLEAR message.
gosh I'm confused. I have people who have a whole year or 2 of airline experience and no experience with pinnacle management telling me "Kudos for having a backbone"
Then I have someone telling me gloom and doom for not signing...
decisions decisions
10-06-2009, 06:50 AM
#56
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Originally Posted by aviatorpr
more than two weeks later and......no word. i thought linda puchala was going to be an asset
10-06-2009, 05:21 PM
#57
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I feel bad for all the starry-eyed FOs who were brainwashed into thinking it would be like SWA where we have another TA in 6 months. More like a year. By the time the union gets done having meetings upon meetings, and the NMB remembers "what was that regional airline's name again?" you'll see a few months of talks, a few more meetings, the vacation slide comes back and 11 days off for reserve OR removal of the 12 hour rule, and then 3 weeks of roadshows...then we might have something to vote on again...
10-06-2009, 07:06 PM
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Not trying to flame the discussion going on, but...
Today I was in BNA and, while eating at the food court, overheard a senior Pinnacle capt who was complaining about "junior" pilots being a majority of the company now. He was mad that the TA had gone down and was saying:
"FOs should be happy with a 40% increase in their wages, what more do they want?"
"All they want is some industry-leading contract. Who cares? I call these pilots 'SNAP', sensitive new age pilots. They think they're entitled to more. Who are they kidding?"
I thought to myself, WOW. No wonder things never get accomplished in this industry. It's this mentality that because they had to suffer through crap-wages when they were junior, every new guy should too.
Anyway, I said it before but congrats to 9E for turning down the contract. I think everyone should vote however they want in a way that would benefit the person itself. However, to be talking trash about your own pilot group because they're 25 years younger than you and you don't agree with them? Wow, that's a new low.
Today I was in BNA and, while eating at the food court, overheard a senior Pinnacle capt who was complaining about "junior" pilots being a majority of the company now. He was mad that the TA had gone down and was saying:
"FOs should be happy with a 40% increase in their wages, what more do they want?"
"All they want is some industry-leading contract. Who cares? I call these pilots 'SNAP', sensitive new age pilots. They think they're entitled to more. Who are they kidding?"
I thought to myself, WOW. No wonder things never get accomplished in this industry. It's this mentality that because they had to suffer through crap-wages when they were junior, every new guy should too.
Anyway, I said it before but congrats to 9E for turning down the contract. I think everyone should vote however they want in a way that would benefit the person itself. However, to be talking trash about your own pilot group because they're 25 years younger than you and you don't agree with them? Wow, that's a new low.
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