I don't make the rules I just have to live with them. The simply fact is that pilots have long memories and whether it's warranted or not, reputation of a pilots previous employer has a direct bearing on success in moving up in your career. Calling the people that you may want to join someday Bozos probably isn't helping your cause.

I think the major problem most people have has nothing to do with the individual pilots. It's your EXCO that is really the problem. You aren't making many friends when FAPA has already, prior to the close of their transaction, reached out to the Midwest pilots and it's been a year and nothing from your EXCO. They really didn't say anything important. Just acknowledge that the Midwest pilots exist.

Another thing is when people are losing their jobs, homes, cars, etc. and something could be done to potentially relieve this and your EXCO are delaying this, it's going to cause problems. When you are losing much of what you built for the last 20+ years everyday is an emergency. Your EXCO's want to do everything together really is not all that important when people are losing homes, children can't finish college, people filing for medical BQ because they can't afford cobra or divorce rates skyrocketing because of the stress.

Even if the Midwest folks were able to get a relative seniority integration, it really doesn't help anything because almost all of the pilots would still be taking a 50% pay cut and most (many already have)could find much better positions outside aviation. Only the very senior(like always) will be able to make anything of this situation.

Like I said, most of us have nothing negative against the RAH pilots (besides some of the clueless SJS victims)but their union has much to be desired.

 

Please read the original post. This is a guy that has his world crashing in around him and yet he holds hope for the future, does not hold his fellow pilots responsible, as he recognizes the pilot groups have little to do with the current situation.

Almost 50% of the entire RAH seniority list was hired in 2007. They had no clue what they were getting into. Most of them had 1000+ coming in and several came over from other regionals hoping for a faster upgrade and/or to work for a more respected airline. That has now collapsed around them. They are being bashed as scabs and probably will have the one of the longest upgrades of any regional.

Clearly the original poster has a much higher degree of professionalism and integrity than the bashers on here. I pray for him and his family that his furlough or job search will be short and that his example is followed by the majority of pilots.

 

This may explain the bragging attitude by Republic pilots... "its our flying now".

Dude, we all had to pay our dues.

It took me over 7 years before flying my first jet aircraft. You guys seem to want instant everything.

 

You beat me, it took me ten years to see my first jet and two companies folding along the way. There may be a lot of right out of flight school 1000 hour types here and at all the other regionals, but we're not all like that. I've never claimed to want anything instantly, I've worked long and hard to get to where I am. I was more than qualified to accept a position in the right seat of this jet. You guys got shafted by capitalism, no doubt about it. But you didn't get shafted by the pilots at Republic. Not a single pilot here hired on with the intention of taking your job! Whether you choose to see it or not right now through all your emotion, all pilots at all the regionals were shafted a little by what's happening. The smart ones here realize it and believe me, we lament it. I'm not downplaying at all the significance of what's happening to you and your peers so don't jump down my throat for stating a fact. For the final time, you have and always have had my support.

Some of you are also building quite a reputation for yourselves with the unearned childish attacks of RAH pilots. How fortunate for you that you can hide behind your anonymity.

 

If creating the very situation all regional pilots suffer under and then attacking them for not changing the market forces they have absolutely no control over isn't acting like a Bozo, I don't know what would be.

 

I just reread my post. I didn't see where I wrote "it's our flying now". Furthermore, how can anyone who comprehends the English language infer that from what I wrote? As far as the job taking bragging that is mentioned ad nauseum on this forum, bull $hit!

 

So I guess you are calling me a liar. Saw it first hand along with the guy who told he was glad to help us out. Remember I worked there briefly. You have more than your share clueless dweebs. Much higher ratio than the 3 other airlines I've worked for.

 

Nope, I'm not calling you a liar. In fact I have a lot of respect for you and the thoughtful posts you write. Our definitions of "bragging about taking jobs" evidently differ. Based on what you wrote, I agree that his words can only be interpreted as coming from an insensitive clueless dweeb. It doesn't smack of bragging though, just stupidity. You would be surprised at how many good people there are here who are heartsick at what's happening to the YXers and the domestic scene I'm general.

To the gentleman who started this thread, you're a class act and I wish you the best. With that I'm through with this forum as well.
Too much like flightinfo.

 

First, best of luck to the origional poster. I hope integration brings everyone back to a job and we can get back to business as usual.

Second, there seem to be a stereotype for Republic pilots. After reading this forum for the past year, I have learned that I am a scab, that I was responsible for our pay rates, that I am personally taking jobs from people much senior to me, and a few other gems. Of course I'm being overly dramatic here, but there seem to be a few people on this forum who believe all this. In truth, all I and everyone I've talked to here think this is a generally crappy situation. The majority of RAH pilots just want a fair integration, and we really hope the Midwest pilots can get back in the air. Maybe not in the same form as before, but it's all we can do.

I'm sure there are a few tools out there who will brag about it being our flying, but you will never hear those words from my mouth. I hope the stupidity of a few idiots doesn't continue to tarnish the entire Republic pilot group, not that our reputation can fall much farther.

 

So just where exactly should we all have gone to get jobs flying turboprops when there aren't THAT many out there to begin with? I'm pretty sure Comair, Republic, Trans States, GoJet, PSA, Air Wisconsin, and ExpressJet to name a few operate an all jet fleet. Skywest, ASA, Mesa, and Eagle are mostly jets as well as far as I know. So again, look at that many RJ jobs, and regardless of what you think about their existence, where would you have had all of those pilots go to find turboprop jobs that didn't exist just because they should have to fly them first before tey get to fly a jet?