I will wait to see if the Republic pilots back-up their words on this webboard. If they work to undermine our legal rights in this integration then that's it.

1. Republic pilots undermined our contract negotiation. Saying... there is nothing we could do.
2. Republic pilots undermine the integration of Midwest pilots. Saying... we need to wait for Frontier.
3. Republic pilots delay, drag out, or try to undermine our legal rights in the merged compnay.

That's strike three. I will write the check and work to see that Republic pilots become the leper colony of aviation.

It's not about the job, a Republic job may not be worth the problem.

It's about the actions of this labor union

 

Go big or go home

Enjoy your career at Republic Airways

Can BB replace 50% of his pilots in short order, if the answer is yes then we are in more trouble than I thought.

 

Please dont confuse what a couple of keyboard warriors say here with what is really occurring between these groups. I'm afraid you will be let down very quickly.

I think these RH guys need to be brought "up" and fast. I am willing to invest my own money to help them help themselves. I could care less about how the integration works out. What would it take to get BB off his high horse. Its all about the money or the loss of it.

I don't agree/understand your statement in bold. It accomplishes nothing

 

So are we gonnna put this in writing? PM me for the name and address you can make the checks out to.

 

Can someone produce a copy of the check that the RAH pilots wrote to buy Midwest?

Yeah...didn't think so.

Your gripe is with the shareholders and the management. Yet a few of you seem hell bent on hosing down with warm used beer water THE VERY pilots that could support you and get you back in the seat.

The same guys who got hosed before by Gene Sowell and his people; and have new, stronger support to get a better contract. They seem to be mvoving in the right direction and trying to do good for all. But that ain't good enough.

Do you think you are the first people who have been dumped on by management? Can you say Continental? Eastern? Frontier? (the original one?) Western? PanAm? National?

Wake up. And quit living on bile before it kills you.

I've got 5 uniforms in my closet. Three airlines tanked. At one, Eastern, we saw our "brothers," take our jobs and airplanes with joy. 4500 pilot families lost everything. We had ONE airline...United...step up. The others took the planes and routes and said, "sorry."

RAH may well have some knobs flying for them. So did you. So does everyone.

They also have people who really want to help you and all you want to do (some of you) is leave a big steamin' in their mess kits.

And how's that gonna motivate them to help you?

 

Can anyone -- someone -- please tell me what they expect the RAH pilots to do right now. Do you want them to quit their jobs, perform an illegal job action, what. Get off their backs. This just as easily could have been you. None of them signed up for this crap, and few of them support it. I have been down and out to where I was not sure if I would be in my house the next month. Never -- did I blame those that could not help the situation and nothing to do with creating it. I may not have liked them sitting in the seat I used to sit in, but they were not the ones that took me out the seat.

 

The companies legally merged. TPG has a seat on the Republic board and owns part of the company.

Even if its a flat out purchase, Midwest pilots have a legal right to be integrated so we can fly Midwest painted aircraft, flying Midwest passengers, to Midwest destinations. Move the integration process ahead or write a LOA for Midwest pilots to start training until a merged seniority list is finalized.

It's the FAIR thing to do.

Republic is moving your pilots into Midwest flying because some CRJ aircraft are being retired. At the same time, B717 are being retired and our pilots are going to the unemployment line.

Republics EXCO is delaying integration so Republic pilots can take over all the Midwest flying.

This is not about the actions of Midwest management or BB... the purchase agreement was signed in June. SWA/Frontier, Delta/Northwest had integration talks before the purchase agreements was signed.

Why not Republic/Midwest? You want all the Midwest flying and have worked/delayed/denied for a year to undermine our pilot group.


Call, Email, Write the Republic EXCO... Stop the lock-out of Midwest pilots.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Midwest pilots offered to fly the 170's, when Republic arrived on to the scene (initially)? Wouldn't that have been a reason to start the negotiations (integration) before the Frontier deal was on the radar scope? Or did this all happen together - if so, wouldn't it have been a logical step for the Republic guys to try to integrate everyone that had a 'dog in the fight'?

Was it obvious that the 717's were going away, or was that a surprise on the YX side of the house? I'm asking, 'cause I'm trying to understand the WHOLE situation.

 

Midwest pilots were told in negotiations "take it or leave it" to a new contract for E170s and E190s. The management tried to whip-saw us against the Republic pilots contract by offering the 51-78 rate for both E170 and E190 flying. Management was trying to get a new industry low wage for the E190, lower than Republic.

When Midwest pilots filed for federal mediation and management knew they were not going to be able to use Midwest pilots to lower the E190 pay scale.

We knew the B717 were going to be retired in May-June 2008. TPG had to have a current production aircraft to grow and we were told it was the E190. Maintenance and Flight Standards/Training started to write the manuals after training at JetBlue.

 

Ahhh, okay, so how is this different for the Republic guys who are negotiating a E-190 pay rate? Won't they be able to file for federal mediation and negotiate a new 190 pay-scale? By looking at APC, I would hope that they would be able to get something within reason of the Frontier Airbus/Midwest 717/JetBlue 190 rate for their new 190 aircraft.

I guess I'm still not sure why some Midwest pilots are reluctant to fly the E-190, if the pay is being negotiated for the better? Like I said before, I'm not trying to cause anyone harm, just trying to understand the big picture.

Good luck to everyone involved in this web-of-a-mess!!