Why do Midwest pilots want to start over again at RAH anyway?

 

A reply to a couple legit questions.
1. why would anyone want to start over at Republic? Easy.It's a flying job. I just sent a resume to an operator who flys c-207's (among other craft.)This after almost 34 years flying professionaly. Its what we (some of us anyway) do.
2. Why didn't we take the previous offer? Partly it's a long process to get to where one will take the cuts in contract/pay. Probably more importantly is what I was told by a union negotiator. Basically, that "Seabury(they were the thugs hired to "restructure" Midwest) doesn't want a deal". They didn't want us to agree to a contract. Every time we tried to pin them down on anything of substance, the offer would change.
Hence..back to what I stated at the beginning.... this isn't the RAH pilots fault, but it is everyone's problem. WE have to remember that someday we may share cockpits. Until the one post I responded to earlier, I had not heard any RAH pilot say that the Midwest gains were "their" flying. Most seem to want to somehow get this done without screwing too many too badly.
Lastly, IBT could add a ton to Teamsters natl bottom line if every airline group saw that signing up with IBT gives a natl senority list and a DOH integration. ALPA would be spinning as the pilot groups left enmasse.

 

[quote=MaxQ;698192]A reply to a couple legit questions.
1. why would anyone want to start over at Republic? Easy.It's a flying job. I just sent a resume to an operator who flys c-207's (among other craft.)This after almost 34 years flying professionaly. Its what we (some of us anyway) do.
2. Why didn't we take the previous offer? Partly it's a long process to get to where one will take the cuts in contract/pay. Probably more importantly is what I was told by a union negotiator. Basically, that "Seabury(they were the thugs hired to "restructure" Midwest) doesn't want a deal". They didn't want us to agree to a contract. Every time we tried to pin them down on anything of substance, the offer would change.
Hence..back to what I stated at the beginning.... this isn't the RAH pilots fault, but it is everyone's problem. WE have to remember that someday we may share cockpits. Until the one post I responded to earlier, I had not heard any RAH pilot say that the Midwest gains were "their" flying. Most seem to want to somehow get this done without screwing too many too badly.
Lastly, IBT could add a ton to Teamsters natl bottom line if every airline group saw that signing up with IBT gives a natl senority list and a DOH integration. ALPA would be spinning as the pilot groups left enmasse.[/quote]

MaxQ...thanks for the answers....Your last paragraph is very interesting....Are you advocating DOH between regionals and majors/LCC?

 

You tried to call your companies bluff which didn't work then you try to force the IBTs hand. You want to go to the top of a seniority list, call everyone here scabs, and bad mouth the group in public saying they lack professionalism, experience, and shouldn't be hired then you have the audacity to turn around and say you aren't being treated the way you feel you should. I'd love to see this horse you rode into town on.

 

Again, you have no idea of what garbage you speak. Legal rights? Hey dude - you don't have an employeer anymore. Like I said before, if you think you have "legal rights" to the Midwest flying, go pull up your Cessna to the gate in MKE. Pilots don't have "legal rights" to ANY flying. Word?

You seriously worked for Midwest? What hiring standards did they have when you were hired?

I understand you're bitter, but I didn't think you were stupid until you've proven that point countless times here.

You're pilot group is not in a great position to negotiate anything buddy, you're career expectations were the soup kitchen lines in a year. Your crazy if you think the Midwest pilots will be back to work before the furloughed Republic pilots. Hate to break it to you, but the IBT's first objective is to protect the Republic pilots first, that includes getting our own guys back to work.

"The best Republic will get is relative position integration and furloughed Republic pilots are not going to be raised up the seniority list."

LOL! I'm not even going to comment...thats just too funny right there.


And hopefully they will, but not before the RAH furloughed guys.

No sh*t. This guy continues to crack me up every day.

 

Dude, I understand you want to have all the Midwest pilots disappear. Midwest and Republic merged. TPG has a seat on the Republic board. This was not a asset purchase.

Midwest pilots have legal rights for integration.

I was hired at Midwest with 5000+ Total Time, 3000+ Turbine, 2000+ Turbine PIC, five years at Mesa, and a 4 year college degree. Can't think of anyone with less experience then me in my class. Must have been my personality that got me hired.

Agreed.


Midwest pilots always had fun working together. Happy I crack you up.

 

So at least you know what to expect when you come back down to the dark side.

 

If I work at Republic it will be better than Mesa. Republic will be a major and it needs that pay scale, benefits, work rules, and retirement improved.

Hope you guys will demand industry average wages based on the equipment type. I mean, you had the industry highest wage for the E190 until the new Jet Blue contract.

Lucky for you the Midwest pilots didn't cave.

 

If you do decide to come over to the circus you will be just as big a part of fighting for those rates.

 

It is better than Mesa. Republic will be a major and we could use your help and F9 help to get the pay, bennies, rules, retirement you speak of.