XJT found out today that we got some of the United flying. I think United is piecing together different airlines to replace the flying. You guys should hear some news today as well. good luck

 

Great news...how much?

 

I think Fred O. is the problem. His home made excel spreadsheet is what determines how many pilots are on property.

 

This sounds like Stockholm syndrome to me.

They do not care whether you are furloughed or not. They furloughed the pilots in the first place to save money. Now, they are asking you back so they can make money. There is NO desire to get pilots back for the sake of getting pilots back. Their entire business model is predicated on fast turnover - in and out, in and out - to keep the average longevity low. When a gap in work comes up, the company will crunch the numbers and determine the most cost effective way to manage the pilots. They'd put you out of a job for 6 months rather than just keep extra reserves or something for a small gap of time, to save wages expense. Your bills do not matter. Only their's do.

Again, this comes down to money. TSA is most likely one of the cheapest bidders out there. In an industry losing money like there is no tomorrow, they can do the job cheaper because of all the reasons we already know about.

Actually, these two statements compliment each other nicely. There is NO loyalty to anyone/anything besides money. From the viewpoint of management, the entire pilot group is just a nameless, faceless mass, to be altered and manipulated however needed to achieve the necessary structure.

I am not saying that there is evil and malice thought on the part of management. They are all more likely good and decent people. But their motives are financial and nothing else. Its business, not personal.

One of the major side effects to the regional situation, as we all know, is this "musical chair" BS that is played. From the pilot's viewpoint, its all luck on who gets awarded and who loses out on flying.

 

i heard something in the ORD crew room today to the effect that the union had some kind of issue with the recalls and now there isn't gonna be anything. i dont know details, and i certainly dont report it as truth...just something i heard and thought i'd see if anyone knows more

 

I agree with what you're saying but I still doubt that people enjoy furloughing their employees. They'll do it in a heartbeat if necessary but it can't be enjoyable. Additionally, furloughing us means they are losing business so they would be likely to try hard not to let it happen. Their motivation to get more flying may not be to get us off the street, but it is a direct side effect of it so I'm all for their efforts.

 

Lets think about this logically for a minute...

More pilots flying = more money for the union. Why the heck would they have issue with that. MYTH BUSTED...

If it turns out to be true, it would be nothing more than management trying to play off our emotions and that they had no intention to recall anyone to begin with. Don't get too excited, don't read to much into anything. And as always, dont believe anything until your flying in it..

 

uh.. what, the union??

 

I seriously doubt its a hoax. Even that is beneath them, in my opinion.

 

Guys & Gals, let's keep the rumors to a minimum. Remember that there are people on furlough right now that are ready to come back. Some are working crap jobs that they hate and some are still unemployed, and this is a ray of sunshine for them.

I hope this is not a hoax... This is putting a lot of people in an awkward position. Do you accept the recall? Plan to move to IAD? and Quit your current job? All to have the company not recall you....

Like bryris said, I hope that management is above doing this.