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dosbo 11-26-2009 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by ERJFO (Post 717221)
XJT is no AWAC or Horizon either. I think it's funny that people lump the "good" regionals and the "bad" regionals in groups.

The best regional is the one that allows you to get in, get your time, and get out as fast as possible.

Where do you plan on getting out to?

The regionals have been growing domestically while mainline continues to shrink. The best regionals are the ones that have payscales you can live on and retire on because you may be there much longer than you planned. Oh wait, I forgot the good ones have been gutted while competing with the lowest bidders.:mad:

Good luck finding a good regional these days.

Clocks 11-26-2009 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by dosbo (Post 717260)
The best regionals are the ones that have payscales you can live on and retire on

That is a lesson they should be pounding into people's heads during flight training.

I consider it very likely that many of us with just a few years in the industry right now may never work for a major. And if we do, we'll be 50 years old before we can transition over.

Same number (or growing) of regional pilots + shrinking majors = settle in and hope you picked a regional with a decent pay scale and contract.

dosbo 11-26-2009 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Clocks (Post 717267)
That is a lesson they should be pounding into people's heads during flight training.

I consider it very likely that many of us with just a few years in the industry right now may never work for a major. And if we do, we'll be 50 years old before we can transition over.

Same number (or growing) of regional pilots + shrinking majors = settle in and hope you picked a regional with a decent pay scale and contract.

Don't they have "selecting the best regional for a job 101" at Riddle and UND. Perhaps there should be a mandated course that covers airline pay and benefits at regionals in the curriculum. Better yet add questions about regional pay and benefits to the FAA commercial pilot written test.:D

Once you commit the time and money to this career choice it's a little late to ask what the pay is.

dojetdriver 11-26-2009 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by CaptainTeezy (Post 717224)
I can't wait for the 150 seat RJ. And people will celebrate when starting FO's will make $30,000 a year to fly the new "Super RJ."!

That's called a CAL 737 newhire.

JetPipeOverht 11-26-2009 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by dosbo (Post 717274)
Don't they have "selecting the best regional for a job 101" at Riddle and UND. Perhaps there should be a mandated course that covers airline pay and benefits at regionals in the curriculum. Better yet add questions about regional pay and benefits to the FAA commercial pilot written test.:D

Once you commit the time and money to this career choice it's a little late to ask what the pay is.

These courses are offered only after you master ' Dealing with other people's unhealthy School-Bashing Issues ' .....perhaps a co-requisite is ' This school promised a lot more than it delivered ' and you might think of reading into George Orwells' 1984 to get an idea of what we're getting ALL over ourselves into haha

dosbo 11-26-2009 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht (Post 717464)
These courses are offered only after you master ' Dealing with other people's unhealthy School-Bashing Issues ' .....perhaps a co-requisite is ' This school promised a lot more than it delivered ' and you might think of reading into George Orwells' 1984 to get an idea of what we're getting ALL over ourselves into haha

Not intending to bash anyone's school. Just trying to make a point about evaluating projected income/benefits and being willing to work for regional wages prior to investing a lot of time and money. Riddle and UND are just high profile examples I randomly picked because everyone is relatively familiar with them. Any avenue taken requires a significant amount of money and effort. I think if more people knew what they would be making for the five to ten plus years at a regional and the general career instability they might consider alternative careers. I have flown with and enjoyed my time with graduates of both programs.

I have read 1984 several times, we are probably much closer than most people realize.


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