"ZING":o:o:o

OAX/SLW aren't crap compared to how complex RNO was made out to be.

True, but the sad part is this; ANY instrument rated pilot should be able to do the above without really much effort. Toss in the new terrain radar setup and pink needle/PFM and it just makes it all that much easier. Just sayin', it's not as complex as our company makes it out to be, nor as hard as many guys like to make it.

And yes, I'd agree that flying down there is for sure more challenging than just about anything in the U.S. Sadly, there are guys that decided to make it harder for all of us.

Good one dude.

Oh come on that's easy;
El Q piloto colgan. :eek:

Oh my simple GoJet friend, still does not know what a SCAB is.

Come on lighten up. We're only kidding.

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I have... as well as Venezuela, Colombia, Guyana, and Suriname under the same conditions... not that big of a deal as long as you have a nice big dip in and Jerry Reed's "Eastbound and Down' is playing in the background... an autopilot is always a good asset unless you don't know how to use it...

Well my bike-riding-70's-latin-lover friend,

I think you and doj missed the point, I wasn't referring to the degree of difficulty involving the maneuver/approach, but rather the challenges that present themselves when operating in such environment.

With regards to the auto-pilot, well, I don't know how reliable VOR's are in Venezuela, Colombia, Guyana, or Suriname, but in Mexico, the signal can be spotty at best on the approach face (in some, but not all markets), and it serves better to have the AP off, particularly around terrain. Some guys opt to shoot these approaches coupled to the FMS, but our guidance specifically says that we are to do them on greens, as we're not approved for anything else in Mexico.

Hope that clarifies it a bit. Having done both the turbo-prop (135, no autopilot) and the 121 in a much more advanced Jet, I can tell you both types of flying represent different challenges, but they are still both challenging in their own ways, which was my original point to my incarcerated friend.:cool:

goaround

Gotcha, the AP/FD setup is pretty crappy and not that great of an asset. Which was kinda what I was getting at before though. Any instrument rated pilot should be able to fly the stuff. Things like the PFM of the FMS and terrain radar give an elevated SA level.

Nah... I didn't miss the point... in fact I whole heartedly agree with you... some of the approaches in the countries I listed are more of a guesstimation than an actual approach. At my former company although we had the capability to do GPS approaches they were not authorized (similar to your Op Specs) and were forced to use navaids (partially blocked or not) that led to some of the most interesting approaches I have ever seen in my life.
Back to my previous post.... I was simply trying to throw some humor into the mix... and my autopilot comment was simply a fact... they are wonderful contraptions unless the user is ineffective at which point they become dangerous.