No steam for the dash 8 guys...I wouldnt trust myself on a raw data DME arc....I havent flown one in almost 3 years. I am sure I could figure it out again although preferably not with revenue in the back.

You're right...not on the Q.

And isn't that the point? Don't mean to single you out here, but as professionals, should we not do everything we can to maintain our skills? Is it right, that just because we fly glass, we allow the automation to erode our confidence? If you've gotten to the point where you aren't comfortable flying the plane in the worst situation imaginable with revenue in the back, then you've already let it go too far...again, nothing personal -- generally I like where your head is at LoL

Agree 100%.

Sadly enough when I was furloughed from my regional it took concentration to even hand fly an ILS with the flight director. I remember how unprofessional I felt after that.

ExperimentalAB: Want to see a respectable hand-flown ILS into a major airport? Fly with a Cape Air pilot into BOS on an 1800 RVR day. I'm extraordinarily biased (at least I'm up-front about it ;)), but I'd trust my life to a fellow 9K pilot before any other regional. Sorry if that's harsh to some, but lots of these guys who went from CFI to right seat of an RJ don't have any real skills. And I know, because I was one of them. I now can't believe that they felt I was qualified for my seat in an RJ. I wasn't. Gotta get some hard IFR flying at some point in your career, whether it's flying people in old 402s, checks, freight, beat up turboprops in the north country, whatever.

No disrespect, but it must be the people you are flying with, I fly with guys and girls that can hand-fly on green needles down to minimums w/o a FD with dead on accuracy.........

No problem with singling me out.

I do not trust myself on a blue needle DME arc because we do not have any in our system. I hand fly a good deal in the plane and feel proficient in all aspects of the envelope we fly in but that does not account for the situations outside the envelope.

Unless we load one up in the sim I will not see one.

I agree as well, the saab was a good move for me. Shooting an NDB app to mins with a circle to land (cause the loc and vor app was out of service and the winds were kickin the way we didnt want it to) in DRT at night with the autopilot and fd mel'd was pretty crazy. It was like flying a 28,000lb piper warrior. LOL I believe going vor to vor and lots of hand flying has made me a better pilot no doubt. :D

And it was snowing, and there were Monkeys on the runway, and did I mention we lost an engine, and and and...;)

Agreed, I've seen many people do it. Hell...My last flight was RDU-EWR in crap weather down to mins with no AP or FMS. It was possibly the best flight I've ever had...even with all the EWR vectoring. I had 3 passengers say it was one of the smoothest flights they've ever experienced...I assume they were drunk.

^ you fly in the northeast yesterday? I was Deadheading on a CHQ flight from CLE-BWI, Severe Turbulence, it was F----- awful, crew did a hell of a job ( In an Rj ;) ). The amount of cycles we do in the northeast, I am pretty confident in 99.8% of the regional guys/girls out there, considering the lack of movement ,most crews have been in seat for at least 2+ years

You forgot;

They narrowly missed a school bus full of children.