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Old 01-26-2010 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
Excellent post! I have started to stay quiet about this colgan fiasco for lack of will power. These people think it is great that they have a job and are flying an airplane gaining experience FOR WHAT? so they can have a career? THIS IS A CAREER!!!! You might as well forget that the majors exsist. BEing hired at a regional is no longer a stepping stone that can be counted on. There are THOUSANDS of pilots waiting for jobs at a major right now. Many of those pilots have thousands upon thousands of hours more then any newhire at colgan will have.

You are justifying a job making 20 thou a year when you are a professional? Go work at Home Depot! You will make more money, be home more, spend less commuting, and you will get weekends off a whole lot quicker. The people accepting the job, willing to work for 20 grand a year and almost zero work rules... is as close to a mockery of this profession as one can begin to describe. Thats why people are upset at Colgan and even more bewildered by the ignorant, self entitled attitude of "we will make it better" that is seen on these forums. It is not OK and it will never be ok. Your about as much a professional as the guy flipping fries at mcdonalds for the SAME pay. Wake UP!

Your post backs up my suspicions about you and your blithering posts. Unlike you, most on this forum are not okay with sitting back and allowing the Regionals to be their, "Career". Maybe guys who have no competitive edge or advantage are okay sitting back and accepting the fact they will be flying for said Regional for eternity and til 65. For the rest of us who actually have LONG TERM GOALS, we are working to be ready when the doors open and the Boomers finally retire and the Major Carriers are looking for workers. If someone was sitting at Home Depot they would cap out sub six figures and never be doing what they aspired/wanted to do with their life, but if they are working at a Regional/Corporate/Military/Instructing or any of the flying jobs, they are working to have the advantage and requirements to walk through that door as soon as it opens.

If you are so broken, why don't you quit and let someone with self motivation and aspiration take your job and try to make his way. At least in the mean time his passengers will have someone at the controls who has aspirations of bettering themselves/life status.

O and one more thing, things NEVER get better if people succumb to your defeatists attitude. Things get better when people stand up and MAKE them better. I am sure happy my Union is comprised of hard working souls that WANT and WORK to make Colgan better.
Old 01-26-2010 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by winglets
Last time I checked, Colgan FO's are only paid $18,000 for their first year and $25,000 for their second year to fly a 70 seat airplane.

The pay is still terrible at Colgan until its fixed. Just because you are in negotiations doesn't mean it is still a good thing to work for those wages.

As for what I've done to better the profession? For starters, how about I don't accept jobs at places that pay their pilots food stamp wages, such as Colgan.

Wow, get back to me when you've actually DONE something about improving the profession.

Until then......Yawwwnnnnn! Just another internet blowhard that doesn't know when to quit.
Old 01-26-2010 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jowersman
I had my interview the other day. It went great.. I'm really hoping I get this job. This will be my first time in the airline industry and it's going to great working with a company that is very family oriented! Good luck to the other guys who interview with me!
I was there too, good luck and let us know if you hear anything.
Old 01-26-2010 | 10:00 AM
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Wow, get back to me when you've actually DONE something about improving the profession.

Until then......Yawwwnnnnn! Just another internet blowhard that doesn't know when to quit.
Amen Brother
Old 01-26-2010 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruise
Wow, get back to me when you've actually DONE something about improving the profession.

Until then......Yawwwnnnnn! Just another internet blowhard that doesn't know when to quit.
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Amen Brother
I take everything back. Your level of professionalism shows that $18,000/year may be the appropriate compensation you should receive.
Old 01-26-2010 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by winglets
I take everything back. Your level of professionalism shows that $18,000/year may be the appropriate compensation you should receive.
Hahaha. How old are you? There wasn't anything unprofessional about calling you a blowhard, and commenting on how easy it is to throw rocks from the cheap seats.

Winglet - we get it. Unfortunately, you need to let it go. Your argument (the basis of which is coherent) is falling on deaf ears.

Screaming at people from the sidelines doesn't do any good in any arena. When you can get into the game, I suggest you bury your heels in union work, and fight for something you are clearly very passionate about.

Until then, you shouldn't comment further. It's only making you look less mature, annoying, and quite frankly, crazy.
Old 01-26-2010 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85

Winglet - we get it.
Just to be clear there is only one winglet. Joined APC in JUN 2008!

New rule: You can't just add an s to the the end of another member's screen name. Moderator?

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Old 01-26-2010 | 10:35 AM
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This thread is fast heading in the direction of being shut down.

Good luck to those who interviewed, hopefully we'll all get good news soon.
Old 01-26-2010 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by etflies
This thread is fast heading in the direction of being shut down.

Good luck to those who interviewed, hopefully we'll all get good news soon.
Unfortunately people seem to get upset when we state the facts about Colgan's pay. I am at a loss why some people get angry when we mention a 1st year FO makes $18,000/year and $25,000/year during their 2nd year flying a 70-seat jet.

My question to you is, do you feel getting a full time job that only pays $18,000/year is good news?
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Originally Posted by Jowersman
and it's going to great working with a company that is very family oriented!
LOL

cant believe colgan is still selling this...
back in the 90s and up to several years ago maaybe.
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