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09-09-2010, 12:57 PM
#161
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Lack of career growth can really begin to weigh on you after a couple of years. I would bet that if the company allowed movement to another airframe, the long upgrade would be a little easier to handle. Another thing they could do is provide a PIC type out of initial training. That would allow some career growth despite the long upgrade time.
09-09-2010, 06:16 PM
#162
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Originally Posted by mwa1
Dirty little secret, half the list are FO's. Worse yet, time to CA numbers are bogus. Upgrades occur when the upper half leaves or if growth occurs - good luck with that happening. Worse yet, if the airline shrinks the bottom of the CA half gets to be the top of the FO half again - which is more likely the case at AE if the 135's are mothballed.
09-09-2010, 06:25 PM
#163
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It is true that there are quite a few Captains at the top who are not going anywhere until they can't pass their medical or retire, which is an unknown percentage of approximately 600 pilots, if I remember the numbers correctly. This does mean that the remaining 800 Captains would have to move on relatively quickly (assuming no growth) for most of the FO's to have a shot at moving on. If, however, a PIC type rating was attainable out of initial training, it would help some pilots move on earlier as they could LOG PIC time anytime they were the Sole Manipulator of the flight controls, even though they aren't Acting as PIC. This logged PIC time would open doors up for some mid seniority pilots to move on sooner, which would result in movement for most of the FO's, and could actually result in a lower overall operating cost since the average FO salary would go down with the average FO seniority. Just a thought.
09-09-2010, 07:00 PM
#164
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
If, however, a PIC type rating was attainable out of initial training, it would help some pilots move on earlier as they could LOG PIC time anytime they were the Sole Manipulator of the flight controls, even though they aren't Acting as PIC. This logged PIC time would open doors up for some mid seniority pilots to move on sooner.
09-09-2010, 08:56 PM
#165
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
It is true that there are quite a few Captains at the top who are not going anywhere until they can't pass their medical or retire, which is an unknown percentage of approximately 600 pilots, if I remember the numbers correctly. This does mean that the remaining 800 Captains would have to move on relatively quickly (assuming no growth) for most of the FO's to have a shot at moving on. If, however, a PIC type rating was attainable out of initial training, it would help some pilots move on earlier as they could LOG PIC time anytime they were the Sole Manipulator of the flight controls, even though they aren't Acting as PIC. This logged PIC time would open doors up for some mid seniority pilots to move on sooner, which would result in movement for most of the FO's, and could actually result in a lower overall operating cost since the average FO salary would go down with the average FO seniority. Just a thought.
I think I read that you are hoping to start class here eventually. Why don't you revisit that question once you get out on the line...
09-10-2010, 03:36 AM
#166
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
If, however, a PIC type rating was attainable out of initial training, it would help some pilots move on earlier as they could LOG PIC time anytime they were the Sole Manipulator of the flight controls, even though they aren't Acting as PIC.
09-10-2010, 07:21 AM
#167
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Originally Posted by andy171773
ATR is an awesome airplane..and the island flying is second to none.
The problems with Eagle's island flying is the 9 hour over nights..pretty much everywhere you go.it's only 9 hours. Not so much fun
But the views..oh my!
The problems with Eagle's island flying is the 9 hour over nights..pretty much everywhere you go.it's only 9 hours. Not so much fun
But the views..oh my!
I don't fly on eagle, but...hey!!! Flying in the caribbean wonderful. =) I teach in a flight school in SIG, like 5nm from SJU...and I hope to get ATR in SJU if I get hired by eagle.
If not is ok... I'll go anywhere
09-10-2010, 07:22 AM
#168
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
If, however, a PIC type rating was attainable out of initial training, it would help some pilots move on earlier as they could LOG PIC time anytime they were the Sole Manipulator of the flight controls, even though they aren't Acting as PIC. This logged PIC time would open doors up for some mid seniority pilots to move on sooner, which would result in movement for most of the FO's, and could actually result in a lower overall operating cost since the average FO salary would go down with the average FO seniority. Just a thought.
WOW? Seriously?
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