I agree with you, in my short time here at Eagle something that I learned is...

Don't trust what management say, don't trust what the union say, don't trust what everybody say. Just get into the plane, fly, do your flight time, enjoy, have fun, make some connections and whatever happens, happens.

We've been hearing about the divestment since almost a year now and nothing have happened yet.

Just enjoy life... :):D

to Embraer...have fun in training, forget about what people say and go study your limitations, profiles, EPC, and system. You will have a long 2.5 months in training so have fun! ;)

Oh yeah..training is great :) Just thought I would take a break from the ERJ's overhead panel and post some of the information I have been picking up over the past few weeks around here. I didn't know I was putting out an open inivitation for bickering, but this is the interweb ;)

American Eagle wants to go places

ByTerry Maxon/Reporter
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5:48 PM on Wed., Mar. 30, 2011 | Permalink
American Eagle has applied for permission to fly to Chad, Uzbekistan and Australia.

Actually, AMR unit asked the U.S. Department of Transportation on Tuesday to give it blanket approval to fly to any country covered by "open skies" treaties between the United States and other nations. That includes those three countries, and 86 others.

The regional carrier already holds the rights to fly to some points in the Caribbean, Canada and Mexico, but would like to go anywhere that the U.S. has obtained those rights. That beats having to ask permission, country by country.

For all the countries covered by open skies treaties, keep reading.


Albania France Latvia Portugal
Armenia Gabon Liberia Qatar
Aruba The Gambia Lithuania Romania
Australia Germany Luxembourg Rwanda
Austria Ghana Madagascar Senegal
Bahrain Georgia Malaysia Slovak Republic
Barbados Greece Maldives Slovenia
Belgium Guatemala Mali Spain
Bosnia-Herzegovina Honduras Malta Sri Lanka
Bulgaria Hungary Morocco Sweden
Burkina Faso Iceland Namibia Switzerland
Cameroon India Netherlands Taiwan
Canada Indonesia Netherlands Antilles Tanzania
Cape Verde Ireland Nicaragua Thailand
Chad Italy Nigeria Trinidad and Tobago
Costa Rica Jamaica Norway Turkey
Cyprus Japan Oman Uganda
Czech Republic Jordan Pakistan United Arab Emirates
Denmark Kenya Panama United Kingdom
El Salvador Korea, Republic of Paraguay Uruguay
Estonia Kuwait Peru Uzbekistan
Ethiopia Laos Poland Zambia
Finland

Me...Wonder how many we will be

+1 on the 4/11 class. I heard their will be 29 people in the class. I'm an '86 edition. Aiming for ORD or DFW...if you're in the class speak up.

AMR has an interline agreement with Jet Blue, not a code share. BIG difference, and not as lucrative as a codeshare. Any code share agreement has to be approved by APA so Eagle isn't going to be flying large jets under codeshare for AA anytime soon.

AMR would have spun off Eagle a long time ago if they could have used it as a profitable work around to the APA scope clause.

Embraer,

Thanks for the info. It's always good to hear what's being said and by whom. However, your perception and/or their presentation of some of the items doesn't really jibe with the reality of the industry.

For instance, there are only 68 current airplanes worth of flying coming open in the next 5 years for Eagle to bid on industrywide. Even if we got ALL of those for other airlines it would only mitigate what AMR will be trying to "diversify" from us in 3-5 years (see history of XJT for an idea of what's happening). So IMO, and that of many others who've been around a while, is that this "flying for other carriers" is a hollow claim.

Bottom line is that they want to diversify the feed so they're not hamstrung by having only Eagle to do their small jet flying in case of labor issues or other significant difficulties at one carrier.

Think about it: if things are so great wrt our attrition and costs vs. that of others' (that part is seemingly accurate btw), then why is AMR so ready to get rid of us? Or are they?

You're fresh as a daisy at Eagle, so try not to become overly intoxicated by management statements of desire.

In time you'll learn this.

I agree that codeshares used to be much more important than interline agreements, but considering the two airlines AA/JB dont use the GDS companies like Orbitz/Expredia/etc then the codeshare benefit is reduced. Since all the traffic now has to book on aa.com (or get info directly from AA) then they are able to "push" the interline itineraries. Jetblue makes a big deal out of every interline agreement they sign, and I think they are onboard with this idea of not using the GDS and controlling their inventory.

The jetblue interline agreement has benefits for frequent fliers, which typically arent included in interlines, and if it is developed further to the point where elite frequent flier mileage can be accrued then that all but eliminates the need for a codeshare.

Domestic codeshares have to be approved by APA, but not interline agreements. AMR wants to have companies like jetblue do their feed flying in the future through these types of agreements. Jetblue feeding AA doesnt require a CPA or any sort of financial support from AMR, they simply run their passengers through major AA hubs and AA picks up connecting pax to int'l flights. If I were APA, I would be 10 times more worried about this than Eagle flying an RJ to Des Moines.

Did not justify the expense at that time, or it is a squeeze to APA to come around on scope. APA is against the divestiture.