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12-03-2011 | 04:51 PM
#4701
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Make sure to give them 3 dates to choose from. Try to put it at the end or beginning of a sequence or you could just get a random single day off. Unless you don't care.
12-03-2011 | 05:08 PM
#4702
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From: E145 FO
The E135 and E140 are the first on the chopping block. Assume 10 pilots per plane. I think Eagle has 70 of those aircraft so that would mean 700 pilots to be furloughed.
Most of our newly upgraded captains are going back to the right seat and most of the 2011 new hires will be on the street.
Eagle will not win any new flying contracts because we have too many people at the top of the pay scale. Can't compete with RAH and GO JET with your average crew having 12 years experience.
Most of our newly upgraded captains are going back to the right seat and most of the 2011 new hires will be on the street.
Eagle will not win any new flying contracts because we have too many people at the top of the pay scale. Can't compete with RAH and GO JET with your average crew having 12 years experience.
12-04-2011 | 04:29 AM
#4704
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From: 1st year pay for the 3rd time
It was 300 pilots indeed. Three groups of 100 went out the door just in time for the holidays. Actually the last group of 100 was booted on the 9 th of January I think.
12-04-2011 | 04:52 AM
#4705
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From: FO
I don't claim to be an expert in terms of bankruptcy operations, but wouldn't it be counter-productive to just park 70 (est.) airplanes and thereby eliminate revenue? My personal feeling is that this bankruptcy was thought through a long time ago, and Eagle would not have been hiring full speed this long if airplanes were to be parked and not replaced with something else. I am sure there are some unprofitable routes that will be culled, but AMR could have parked the airplanes a long time ago with no consequences even before we were so overstaffed. I just have a hard time believeing that with this opportunity to reduce the labor costs that management has wanted for so long that they are just going to throw away a fully-operational airline (Eagle) in exchange for an unknown feed. So far at least there has been no announcement about capacity reduction beyond the regular 4th quarter stuff.
Also, my understanding is that hiring/classes are technically "on hold" which means they can be resumed at any time. Let's not forget that Eagles' plan was to bid on outside flying and if costs are reduced through this process (I am not advocating this as a good thing) then it is very possible that Eagle will not shrink at all. Let's not panic until we see what we are dealing with.
Also, my understanding is that hiring/classes are technically "on hold" which means they can be resumed at any time. Let's not forget that Eagles' plan was to bid on outside flying and if costs are reduced through this process (I am not advocating this as a good thing) then it is very possible that Eagle will not shrink at all. Let's not panic until we see what we are dealing with.
12-04-2011 | 05:15 AM
#4706
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I don't claim to be an expert in terms of bankruptcy operations, but wouldn't it be counter-productive to just park 70 (est.) airplanes and thereby eliminate revenue? My personal feeling is that this bankruptcy was thought through a long time ago, and Eagle would not have been hiring full speed this long if airplanes were to be parked and not replaced with something else. I am sure there are some unprofitable routes that will be culled, but AMR could have parked the airplanes a long time ago with no consequences even before we were so overstaffed. I just have a hard time believeing that with this opportunity to reduce the labor costs that management has wanted for so long that they are just going to throw away a fully-operational airline (Eagle) in exchange for an unknown feed. So far at least there has been no announcement about capacity reduction beyond the regular 4th quarter stuff.
Also, my understanding is that hiring/classes are technically "on hold" which means they can be resumed at any time. Let's not forget that Eagles' plan was to bid on outside flying and if costs are reduced through this process (I am not advocating this as a good thing) then it is very possible that Eagle will not shrink at all. Let's not panic until we see what we are dealing with.
Also, my understanding is that hiring/classes are technically "on hold" which means they can be resumed at any time. Let's not forget that Eagles' plan was to bid on outside flying and if costs are reduced through this process (I am not advocating this as a good thing) then it is very possible that Eagle will not shrink at all. Let's not panic until we see what we are dealing with.
12-04-2011 | 06:10 AM
#4707
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From: CA
Back in 08 Eagle "CANCELED" their classes and "SUSPENDED" all interviews. If you noticed now they are using the word "on hold". Hopefully this will only be a short stint and things will start back up in the spring.
12-04-2011 | 06:53 AM
#4709
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just talked to a check airment and 2 sim instructors...initial projections...parking 30-100 planes mostly 135/140's...
according to the Boyd group... AE will be 50-60 planes large by 2016....
good luck to all affected
according to the Boyd group... AE will be 50-60 planes large by 2016....
good luck to all affected
12-04-2011 | 06:58 AM
#4710
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From: GV Captain
Stop posting crap. Its all in the air right now. Again, Instructors and check airmans are NOT managers. And Boyd is an Idiot that for years wants to see AE fail.
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