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RJ Pilot 12-12-2011 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1100640)
I can't imagine even IF the f word happened, it would be for very long. It is too bad the hiring spigot got turned off though.

When would you say Pinnacle will furlough?

CzechAirman 12-12-2011 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by BrewMaster (Post 1100469)
If I get to the point where I am as serious, miserable and hopeless as the majority of the people on here, I'm gonna eat a bullet.

Life is so freaking short and every single one of us on here had been extraordinarily blessed to do what e do even if it's not exactly the perfect picture we painted in our heads.

Life is about family, friends, leisure then work. One day it's all gonna end and I can assure you youre gonna be remembered for the person you are and not because you flew a 767. Take a deep breath and smile. Things could be much much worse.

P.s. I'm concerned that evryone took my previous post seriously....block30 need to put the contradictory posts in check and quit inventing drama or ill will that was never said.

Everyone go drink a beer.


But what if their life revolves around them BEING an airline pilot?

eaglefly 12-12-2011 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by lavMan (Post 1100657)
Well unfortunately it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when is it going to start.

Yep. I estimate conservatively at least 125 aircraft steadily parked at Eagle, thus at least 1200 or so furloughs with 600 captains or every upgrade in the last 18-24 months back to F/O.

Bigger, shinier RJ's will come, but pay rates for those will be at or below the current 50-seat scale forever. Starting in 2014, Eagle will readjust pay scales yearly to that of the lowest paying competitors as per the TA.

stbloc 12-12-2011 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Eclipse (Post 1100628)
This isn't the same situation at all though. Remember, Eagle is profitable. That said, it's always good to be prepared for the worst.

If so then why was AMR wanting to spin off Eagle in the first place? I would think if I was running a business into chapter 11 that I would want my best assets for protection. Just saying.

My prediction is all 50 seats and below go away. How many 70+ seat planes they bring in for Eagle is anyone guess.

eaglefly 12-12-2011 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 1100705)
If so then why was AMR wanting to spin off Eagle in the first place? I would think if I was running a business into chapter 11 that I would want my best assets for protection. Just saying.

My prediction is all 50 seats and below go away. How many 70+ seat planes they bring in for Eagle is anyone guess.

My previous belief would result in Eagle being about 60% ot current size flying CRJ-700 and some larger 90-seat RJ's and turboprops. Who else is also feeding AA is yet to be seen, but it will have to be someone.

BrewMaster 12-13-2011 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by CzechAirman (Post 1100678)
But what if their life revolves around them BEING an airline pilot?

I pity the fool.

m78fl370 12-13-2011 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1100713)
My previous belief would result in Eagle being about 60% ot current size flying CRJ-700 and some larger 90-seat RJ's and turboprops. Who else is also feeding AA is yet to be seen, but it will have to be someone.

The only comfort in reading your posts over the years is that you are usually wrong.

G5inmind 12-13-2011 10:06 AM

To any reserve guys in New York. Or who has some insight on this. How often do the reserve pilots fly? What are the usual reserve schedule? :confused:

Stryker 12-13-2011 10:49 AM

it all just depends on whats available.... There are times where I would fly my tail off, and other times where I would sit around for 3 or 4 days at a time... (this is in ORD though). In DFW those guys were being used pretty regularly. As for the NY area I dont know, but you will get a decent amount of time (40-70 hrs)/month in most bases.

eaglefly 12-13-2011 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by m78fl370 (Post 1101028)
The only comfort in reading your posts over the years is that you are usually wrong.

Any specifics ?

But hey, you're probably right. I'm sure Eagle will not park a single E-145 until they can be exchanged 1-for-1 with E-190's.

Yeaaaah.....that's the ticket. :rolleyes:


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