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Mason32 12-10-2011 08:33 AM



Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1099466)
pretty in depth info on AA's plans fwiw,

http://www.aviationplanning.com/Imag...%20Reality.pdf

Old news and it's all bullsh!t
It also happens to match an internal business plan power presentation to the BoD back in 2008-2009. Everything else in that presentation has come to fruition.

I'd expect the Eagle flying to end up at 100 or so jets. The current CRJ's plus another 50 EMB190 as per the original plan, but wouldn't be surprised to see the c-series instead of the 190. It wasn't an option in 2008, but us a good one now.

The other part of the presentation had to do with consolidating Eagle into a regional/domestic division of AA and eliminating Eagle as separate entity all together. Keeping current work rules and wages as the subdivision preserves cost effectiveness, while simultaneously allowing them to shed the majority of the duplicated cost structures.

Will not be surprised to see both happen much quicker through the BK process. Hopefully, the pull of new pilots to AA mainline will match the drawdown at Eagle and avoid Furloughs.

The Eagle flow thru's should also expect to come over much sooner as many of the TWA recalls are likely to defer while AA is in BK.

RJ Pilot 12-10-2011 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1099570)
It also happens to match an internal business plan power presentation to the BoD back in 2008-2009. Everything else in that presentation has come to fruition.

I'd expect the Eagle flying to end up at 100 or so jets. The current CRJ's plus another 50 EMB190 as per the original plan, but wouldn't be surprised to see the c-series instead of the 190. It wasn't an option in 2008, but us a good one now.

The other part of the presentation had to do with consolidating Eagle into a regional/domestic division of AA and eliminating Eagle as separate entity all together. Keeping current work rules and wages as the subdivision preserves cost effectiveness, while simultaneously allowing them to shed the majority of the duplicated cost structures.

Will not be surprised to see both happen much quicker through the BK process. Hopefully, the pull of new pilots to AA mainline will match the drawdown at Eagle and avoid Furloughs.

The Eagle flow thru's should also expect to come over much sooner as many of the TWA recalls are likely to defer while AA is in BK.



Not if AA merges with USAir. The Flowthru, the 824's etc. are dead.

buddies8 12-10-2011 10:34 AM

actually numbered flows will not be dead completely they have a number, the 824 is erased yes and the pref hiring probably the same.

Mason32 12-10-2011 02:25 PM



Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1099570)
It also happens to match an internal business plan power presentation to the BoD back in 2008-2009. Everything else in that presentation has come to fruition.

I'd expect the Eagle flying to end up at 100 or so jets. The current CRJ's plus another 50 EMB190 as per the original plan, but wouldn't be surprised to see the c-series instead of the 190. It wasn't an option in 2008, but is a good one now.

The other part of the presentation had to do with consolidating Eagle into a regional/domestic division of AA and eliminating Eagle as separate entity all together. Keeping current work rules and wages as the subdivision preserves cost effectiveness, while simultaneously allowing them to shed the majority of the duplicated cost structures.

Will not be surprised to see both happen much quicker through the BK process. Hopefully, the pull of new pilots to AA mainline will match the drawdown at Eagle and avoid Furloughs.

The Eagle flow thru's should also expect to come over much sooner as many of the TWA recalls are likely to defer while AA is in BK.



Not if AA merges with USAir. The Flowthru, the 824's etc. are dead.
Not part of their plan that I saw. I was simply recounting that a presentation they made for their 5 year business plan matches what Boyd is saying more than not.

AMR went early so they would not require DIP financing and so they would not be forced into a merger they don't want. Buying that diseased thing called USAir is not something they are interested in. Buying blue would be far more likely.

Stryker 12-10-2011 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1099776)
Buying blue would be far more likely.

That's one way to get 90 seaters on property...

snippercr 12-10-2011 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Glayvin (Post 1099890)
Did they halt and send the December 5th class home after it started or are they going to let them finish training?

Still in training AFAIK, but again, that can change in a matter of about 30 seconds.

buddies8 12-10-2011 07:26 PM

that long.

Tzuk95 12-10-2011 07:26 PM

What are people thinking?
 
I went to the flight ops job fair today in Orlando. There where a hundred people standing in line to talk to American Eagle and put in resumes! Can anyone see any logic in this?

echoaviation 12-10-2011 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Tzuk95 (Post 1099927)
I went to the flight ops job fair today in Orlando. There where a hundred people standing in line to talk to American Eagle and put in resumes! Can anyone see any logic in this?

Probably a good ole' case of SJS.

I was there too...I didn't make it to the presentation about Eagle. What did they tell everyone during it?

PurdueFlyer 12-11-2011 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by Tzuk95 (Post 1099927)
I went to the flight ops job fair today in Orlando. There where a hundred people standing in line to talk to American Eagle and put in resumes! Can anyone see any logic in this?

They probably heard they get guaranteed jobs at American :rolleyes:


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