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theaviator 12-07-2011 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by 32LTangoTen (Post 1098075)
I can't say where I got this because it will be easy for that person to get in trouble but.

I received a text this morning.

JetBlue is moving in to DFW. Alll ATR will be grounded. Basically do away with EX. All employees will have a choice to move to AE or lose job. Grounding all 135s

Half of this is true so far... DFW International Airport Welcomes JetBlue Airways Service to Boston - WFSB Channel 3

What 12-07-2011 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by 32LTangoTen (Post 1098075)
I can't say where I got this because it will be easy for that person to get in trouble but.

I received a text this morning.

JetBlue is moving in to DFW. Alll ATR will be grounded. Basically do away with EX. All employees will have a choice to move to AE or lose job. Grounding all 135s

JetBlue made the announcement of DFW-BOS today, speculations have been going around for a while. They are bringing the Airbus to DFW, I am not sure how the Airbus will (economically) replace the ATR service out of DFW. AMR has a strong partnership with JetBlue and needs help with Spirits attempt to grow in DFW. Don't be surprised to see JetBlue doing DFW-JFK also, this will free up AA slots to do international. AMR goal is to have Eagle/JetBlue do the domestic feed while AA do the Coast to Coast flying and international. This is what the industry has become, UCal, Delta and US have most of their domestic departures done by regionals to compete with the LCC and keep labor cost down. AMR will work with JetBlue to accomplish most of the domestic flights and have Eagle feed both of them. This is divestifying the feed. By doing this AMR wouldn't have to acquire or have someone acquire allot of RJ. Alaska in the west, JetBlue in the NE and Eagle in between!!!

What 12-07-2011 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1098076)
Yes. There will be a replacement. That replacement will be Colgan airlines. You guys need to stop drinking that kool-aid. AMR had mention many times they are not interested in getting new ATRs, pre-post-BK.

Tell me how many Q400 aircraft Colgan has to spare, also how many of the next batch of Q400 they will receive are not spoken for by UCal.

lavMan 12-07-2011 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1098097)
Tell me how many Q400 aircraft Colgan has to spare, also how many of the next batch of Q400 they will receive are not spoken for by UCal.

If AA is still looking for regional feed, I've wondered the same about other regionals out there and the amount of equipment they have to be able to do it too? Guess they can order more, or just take ours? Either way, it's the unemployment line in the future.

What 12-07-2011 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by lavMan (Post 1098100)
If AA is still looking for regional feed, I've wondered the same about other regionals out there and the amount of equipment they have to be able to do it too? Guess they can order more, or just take ours? Either way, it's the unemployment line in the future.

Things are uncertain at this point, we don't know what is going to happen. All we can do is keep options open and fly safe.

Mason32 12-07-2011 11:17 AM



Originally Posted by What (Post 1081450)
We have guys here who make over 100,000 a year. 18yr EMJ Captain at Eagle bidding reserve, staying at home not flying and thus collecting perdium will make 90,000 a year. Add in perdium and line average of 80 hrs and he is easily over 6 figures flying a little RJ. Of course this is for now, until we pass the TA. And didn't we just have a conversation about calling people idiot.

Well up till now, I had not answered you, so you were talking to yourself. But got it, however I think he is being sarcastic. There is no reason that an RJ captain should make this much, it should drop to 80k max if flown at guarantee for the year. It hurts everyone for people to stay at this job, and want bigger planes. These high paid captains will be the first one to say they hope to retire on a 100 seat jet.
Well, for the past 11 years there has been only a trickle of hiring at mainline carriers. I think an entire generation of pilots got trapped at regionals, and I for one am glad they were at least able to make a decent income.

They didn't have a choice but still had to feed their families. Here they ate 11 years later at 18 year pay with good schedules and good pay and you want to complain that they aren't getting out of your way?



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What 12-07-2011 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1098145)
Well, for the past 11 years there has been only a trickle of hiring at mainline carriers. I think an entire generation of pilots got trapped at regionals, and I for one am glad they were at least able to make a decent income.

They didn't have a choice but still had to feed their families. Here they ate 11 years later at 18 year pay with good schedules and good pay and you want to complain that they aren't getting out of your way?



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I don't appreciate the way you quoted the post, if I remember the conversation correctly some stated that no RJ captain was making 6 figures. I stated that we did but with the proposed TA they were looking at possible pay cuts, the second quote isn't mine so please fix the quotes, thank you in advance!!!

Mason32 12-07-2011 11:45 AM



Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1098145)
Well, for the past 11 years there has been only a trickle of hiring at mainline carriers. I think an entire generation of pilots got trapped at regionals, and I for one am glad they were at least able to make a decent income.

They didn't have a choice but still had to feed their families. Here they ate 11 years later at 18 year pay with good schedules and good pay and you want to complain that they aren't getting out of your way?



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I don't appreciate the way you quoted the post, if I remember the conversation correctly some stated that no RJ captain was making 6 figures. I stated that we did but with the proposed TA they were looking at possible pay cuts, the second quote isn't mine so please fix the quotes, thank you in advance!!!
Just getting used to this new iPhone and APC app. You're correct, it doesn't look right to me either, but I don't see how to fix it on here yet...

Mason32 12-07-2011 11:50 AM

Actually, looking at it again, it clearly is two separate quotes, neither one shows the original author... Us there a way to tag each quote on the iPhone app that will show not only the quote but who us being quoted?

RJ Pilot 12-07-2011 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by lavMan (Post 1098100)
If AA is still looking for regional feed, I've wondered the same about other regionals out there and the amount of equipment they have to be able to do it too? Guess they can order more, or just take ours? Either way, it's the unemployment line in the future.

Alpa gave away the transfer of pilots with aircrafts. AMR could furlough and use those planes with new lower pay pilots. There are many ways to get hosed.


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