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cantwin 02-17-2012 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 1136868)
Welcome to the airlines!

That's my point... Eagle is not my first rodeo with airlines. I will not stand for what most newhires go through. These airlines think they can get away with anything because newhires won't know any better. Try again... So because of my phone call I saved 5 people's weekends. :-)

meeko031 02-17-2012 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by N927EV (Post 1136790)
They speak English??!


...spanglish, but not to worry, i had a copy of rosetta stone

Subpilot 02-17-2012 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by cantwin (Post 1136872)
That's my point... Eagle is not my first rodeo with airlines. I will not stand for what most newhires go through. These airlines think they can get away with anything because newhires won't know any better. Try again... So because of my phone call I saved 5 people's weekends. :-)

Good for you! Just because you are new doesn't mean the rules don't apply.

RJ Pilot 02-17-2012 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by cantwin (Post 1136872)
That's my point... Eagle is not my first rodeo with airlines. I will not stand for what most newhires go through. These airlines think they can get away with anything because newhires won't know any better. Try again... So because of my phone call I saved 5 people's weekends. :-)

Ahh the big guy! Making waves already and aren't even a line pilot yet?
Good luck!

RJ Pilot 02-17-2012 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Subpilot (Post 1136922)
Good for you! Just because you are new doesn't mean the rules don't apply.

Union wont represent him either....

tmtbiker 02-17-2012 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1136927)
Ahh the big guy! Making waves already and aren't even a line pilot yet?
Good luck!

Nice, bash the guy for doing the right thing...and taking a stand on a safety issue. Also, what difference does it make that he's not done with IOE? You don't have to have 20 years on the line to know that a 6 day, 24 hour continuous RAP assignment is illegal and unsafe.


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1136928)
Union wont represent him either....

Incorrect. Just because a pilot is on probation does NOT mean that the contract doesn't apply to him/her. Furthermore, if there is an issue, the union will work to fix it. Otherwise, the company would walk all over the new hires, because the "union won't represent [them]".

If you're trying to make some thinly veiled comment about how 'useless' the union is, you did a poor job with that argument as well. My reps have always gone above and beyond to help me, especially in safety and contract compliance scenarios even when I was on probation!

RJ Pilot 02-17-2012 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by tmtbiker (Post 1136984)
Nice, bash the guy for doing the right thing...and taking a stand on a safety issue. Also, what difference does it make that he's not done with IOE? You don't have to have 20 years on the line to know that a 6 day, 24 hour continuous RAP assignment is illegal and unsafe.



Incorrect. Just because a pilot is on probation does NOT mean that the contract doesn't apply to him/her. Furthermore, if there is an issue, the union will work to fix it. Otherwise, the company would walk all over the new hires, because the "union won't represent [them]".

If you're trying to make some thinly veiled comment about how 'useless' the union is, you did a poor job with that argument as well. My reps have always gone above and beyond to help me, especially in safety and contract compliance scenarios even when I was on probation!

You owe back dues then. You should suggest that or cut them a check.

Kalamazoo 02-17-2012 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1136986)
You owe back dues then. You should suggest that or cut them a check.

Why? All he said the union did was enforce the contract. That's standard operating procedure as an apprentice member.

cantwin 02-17-2012 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Subpilot (Post 1136922)
Good for you! Just because you are new doesn't mean the rules don't apply.

Excuse me? They were making up the rules! Rules do apply, to me and everybody else.... the right rules that is. I'm not going to sit "reserve" in dfw for them to "maybe" call me at ANY moments notice, that's bs! And if you all want to do that, then that's what ruins it all for everybody else - not standing up for your rights! Doesn't matter if I've been here for 1 day or 15 years, union is supposed to stand up for us and they did their job today - and a good job might I add.

samballs 02-17-2012 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1136986)
You owe back dues then. You should suggest that or cut them a check.

First he did what was right
second you either like it from behind or just are a sissy and let people walk all over you. He did nothing wrong, he said you cant just put me on resrrve so get it right. Now it seems you are one of those guys that just excepts finishing last. Good job on the new hire for knowing the contract. I wish 1/4 of the pilots at eagle knew the contract, but they don't


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