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Old 02-07-2012, 05:23 AM
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AMR will get their scope relief from APA and then they will dangle new planes in front of Eagle while we all bend over and take it.
Let's face it, if they get a salary cap put in place, they just solved the longevity issue. AMR likes to have control and they don't want to give it up to some non-owned regional if they don't have to. Eagle is in bK too. Costs will be cut all over the place and put us in a much more competitive position then we already are. Those new planes will be coming here, it's just a matter of how much they can beat us down with concessions and threats of furloughs first.
AMR wants nothing to do with Eagle. I guess you missed that whole spin-off try. You are deeply misled if you think AMR can't keep control if they don't have a wholly-owned. Ask the regional guys flying under the DAL tent. Momma DL will take flying and airplanes away from you at will. Then DL lets the regionals duke it out to get the flying back at a cheaper cost. I understand you want to believe that there's this big bright shiny light at the end of the bk tunnel for Eagle, AA included, but I've been through the whole bk chop shop and you better make sure you're strapped in. It's a long drawn out process. Pilots like to think they know it all until they're the last ones to find out! Always remember, plan for the worst and hope for the best!
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by love2av8 View Post
AMR will get their scope relief from APA and then they will dangle new planes in front of Eagle while we all bend over and take it.
Let's face it, if they get a salary cap put in place, they just solved the longevity issue. AMR likes to have control and they don't want to give it up to some non-owned regional if they don't have to. Eagle is in bK too. Costs will be cut all over the place and put us in a much more competitive position then we already are. Those new planes will be coming here, it's just a matter of how much they can beat us down with concessions and threats of furloughs first.
Who told you that? Horton?
Just ask your union rep. They can't come out and say it yet because of all the NDA's but they'll tell you if you ask the right questions. Also the APA scope relief will have to get worked out beforehand as well. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just passing along what I've heard so lighten up. I'm quite happy with the equipment I'm flying right now and I prefer spreading he good news over the bad. Some of you people are just miserable...
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by love2av8 View Post
AMR will get their scope relief from APA and then they will dangle new planes in front of Eagle while we all bend over and take it.
Let's face it, if they get a salary cap put in place, they just solved the longevity issue. AMR likes to have control and they don't want to give it up to some non-owned regional if they don't have to. Eagle is in bK too. Costs will be cut all over the place and put us in a much more competitive position then we already are. Those new planes will be coming here, it's just a matter of how much they can beat us down with concessions and threats of furloughs first.
Either fly the planes for first year pay or go through the new hire process at a new company and start all over at first year pay.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:23 PM
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I have to agree with those involved with management or union part, its going to be fairly three fold....x amount of planes we plan on getting rid of, but this much x amount more will come in and do regional feed, now you can take off A which will hurt your wallet but you will see most of them coming to you, take B and lose some get only a few and hurt your wallet a bit less, or take C and you can keep what you have but you will lose those planes, and you will not see a single new one. Its be cheaper than everyone else, or call our bluff and open the box of unknown, which is semi known if you look at DAL.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by love2av8 View Post
Just ask your union rep. They can't come out and say it yet because of all the NDA's but they'll tell you if you ask the right questions. Also the APA scope relief will have to get worked out beforehand as well. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just passing along what I've heard so lighten up. I'm quite happy with the equipment I'm flying right now and I prefer spreading he good news over the bad. Some of you people are just miserable...
The union is just as clueless as the rest of us. The NDA is for FINANCIAL information..they have no clue what's going to happen to Eagle. The LEC reps themselves know nothing.

Will eagle shrink? who knows.
Will eagle grow? who knows
Will eagle get 170s? or more 700s? maybe

1-2 years from now, will Eagle be competing for AAs feed with other regional airlines? Absolutely.

Anyone who thinks otherwise about AA diversifying their feed is DELUSIONAL.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by andy171773 View Post
The union is just as clueless as the rest of us. The NDA is for FINANCIAL information..they have no clue what's going to happen to Eagle. The LEC reps themselves know nothing.

Will eagle shrink? who knows.
Will eagle grow? who knows
Will eagle get 170s? or more 700s? maybe

1-2 years from now, will Eagle be competing for AAs feed with other regional airlines? Absolutely.

Anyone who thinks otherwise about AA diversifying their feed is DELUSIONAL.
+1, if I had to guess I would guess the ball will go in our court, but that is all I have to say since I cant say anything online =) with my user name!
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:16 PM
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I don't even know why I go on any airline forum anymore. It's pointless really. People may think they know it all, or have heard all these rumors, but nothing comes to fruition. Everyone is so pessimistic and certain users have some sort of "my regional is better than your regional" syndrome. Look at the past. You didn't see a word on any of these forums about Trans States buying Compass, Skywest buying ASA, or more recently, Skywest picking up Airways flying. I guess the point I'm trying to make here is no one on here really knows what's going to happen at Eagle. And sitting here stressing out about something you read on the forums is pointless. The only ones who knows is AMR. The end result here will probably something no one expected.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:28 AM
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Well this is the "Eagle Life" thread so of course we're gonna be a little biased over here
Anyhow, union Q&A at DFW was interested from what I heard. I was working so I could not attend. However it was mentioned that AMR or American was in Brazil renegotiating lease terms and working on getting some new E175. Nothing can be a done deal until APA stuff is wrapped up.
Also thought it is interesting that they are in talks about a double staple one list. So flame away, I'm just passing along what was said.
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:22 PM
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Everyone can put that CRJ-1000 rumor to rest now...


Garuda Indonesia to acquire up to 36 CRJ1000 NextGens | ATWOnline
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by love2av8 View Post
AMR or American was in Brazil renegotiating lease terms
A baggage handler for Eagle told me those brazilian planes were owned, not leased???
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