I kind of get a kick out of some of your comments on here(I personally think this is the only place you would say such comments), but you do sound like a d0uchebag

Well, coming from one of the lead marchers in the high-five parade, this post is to be expected. :rolleyes:

Did you guys cancel your monthly bonfire party up in Grapevine due to the dry weather and fire risk ?

What a great come back. I expect that from a older bitter man

AMR hasn't unveiled their so called "plan", they have shared bits and pieces of what AA will look moving forward, I can't find the fact quote but even Horton stated it on a Jetwire a few weeks back. The other thing is that the pieces they have put out there can also be adjusted, look at the pensions- first they were going to be terminated and now they will be frozen, next was the early out first they said no and now my understanding is the agreement with the TWU has some type of early out in place. Truth is, we don't know what the outcome will be, remember on Nov 2011 when AA management offered all airplanes over 50 seats to AA pilots, we know there were devils in the details, but they saw no need in outsourcing larger RJ that the flying should be done with smaller narrow bodies. Right now we don't know what's happening behind those closed doors but one thing is certain, if the APA says we are making progress history tells us that management has likely changed the terms, but again SCOPE will be the deciding factor. As far as Wall street, they want consolidation and less competition, they don't like the current plan that AA has brought to the table but the plan is likely to change as we get closer to contract issues being ratified. US Airways wants this merger to happens because if not they know they will be in a works of trouble.

Not that old. I'd be bitter if I was still at Eagle playing for team Tony. ;-)

its more than a rumor that Skywest and Republic are not players anymore for AMR flying. You can find a few recent articles in which Skywest vaguely says someone came to them recently for flying and they could not do it for the cost that said company is getting the flying done for now, not even close. Republic flat out said it is done with AMR come March 2013. Transstates and AMR have a bad relationship, I would not expect AMR to ever lease them an airplane again.

Every regional has a big bone to chew right now getting all the FOs typed with ATPs, and adjusting for FT/DT. If they took on flying, and then could not complete the new flying and/or old flying, they get hit with some massive penalties. It seems to be more than a rumor that AMR might not have a real bite for bid out flying.

I think the flying SKW turned down was the Colgan Q400 flying for United.

Likely, but I am not sure that SKW was a player for this flying. Whoever besides RAH took over this flying was going to build a Dash-8 program and likely would have taken 12+ months after Colgan parked the airplanes for them to be flying again, United would have lost a lot of capacity during this time (of course there are the smaller regionals who fly -8 out there). But SKW would have taken a long time, RAH has the program and is looking to park 50 seater so the staffing is there (somewhat) and the program is in place. As far as SKW and RAH being out of the picture for AMR flying I wish it was true, but so far the only legal flying that AMR could put out was the EMJ flying and likely wanted to see if anyone would underbid for that flying to get in the door. If SCOPE is relaxed (likely) and 70+ seaters are operated for AA, you will see other regionals take a different approach. With that said AMR is putting a lot of money into Eagle these days and it will be interesting if they chose to spin it off or farm out all the flying like they state:

TPS (we are using performance like AA does, they are making us more and more like AA everyday)

Cat II (they are finishing up the last FAA requirements and trials will begin shortly, or se we are told)

Aspen (if they will farm out the flying, why not give it to SKW. Who actually uses softer number in Aspen and is able to carry more weight and different procedures)

EFB (we already have the manuals approved and should have the jepps up and running for everybody in the next month or two)

AQP (the union made a big fuzz but it's likely happening with the ATP requirements)

AMR management is saying many things but at the same time they are doing many things, the facts are they will look to drive labor cost as low as possible and we don't have much leverage, but right now we don't know what they will do with us.

*being sold to someone would likely negate all this programs as we would likely merge operations, and being spun off will have its difficulties since we are embedded with AA in so many areas.

Wow. With all that AA is putting into Eagle you would think if anything a spinoff is in the works. Why invest so much if it is all going away?

the spin off is whipsaw at its finest, I am not sure they even really want to do it. The idea of being spun of had the union come running with concessions.