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tmtbiker 06-09-2012 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1208624)
Well if the AA pilot contract isnt thrown out in 2 weeks, and this goes into another 6 month cycle, the company is going to be in a real pickle, since they are parking the ATRs (only 1/2 way there), and now are super short on planes at Eagle, frequently CX flights because of it, or lack of FAs.

I've been thinking about this lately as well..ATRs leave DFW, the EMB's system wide pick up the slack, no biggie..but now they're leaving MIA too. The EMBs in MIA are flying non-stop, for example I'm seeing a lot of MIA-PIT-JFK-CVG-MIA-CLT (repeat for other cities). A day like that is easy 10-11 hr block for the airplane, not to mention a 30-40 min turn in each city.

Moral of the story..I'm not sure where our airplanes for FPO, NAS, JAX, SAV, EYW, Marsh, Treasure, North Eluthera etc etc are going to come from...even if we are losing all the Cuba/Guantanamo flying.

wrxsteve 06-09-2012 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by ERJF15 (Post 1208604)
Since this thread doesn't have any useful info anymore, I just wanna make sure that I'm IBTL just in case.

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Wingtips 06-09-2012 04:32 PM

seems to me the AMR bluff system wide is coming soon, particularly if the contracts arent solved in 2 weeks in this goes into another 6 month cycle. AA is short on pilots, Eagle is short on airplanes, and Eagle could easily be short on pilots if either AA has to hire or anything happens at all in this industry.

RJ Pilot 06-12-2012 06:09 AM

Good thread on EL about Eagle's E-Jets.

Wingtips 06-12-2012 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1210271)
Good thread on EL about Eagle's E-Jets.

for those of us that wont actually PAY for a forum, can you post it here.

eaglefly 06-12-2012 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1210522)
for those of us that wont actually PAY for a forum, can you post it here.

Basically a high-fiver's rave party about E-jets. Intoxication is high and SJS is rampant.

RJ Pilot 06-12-2012 12:32 PM

Leave? Dude we are getting E Jets!

eaglefly 06-12-2012 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1210602)
Leave? Dude we are getting E Jets!

....and flying them for the same pay we currently fly a 50-seater for !!! :eek:

That's 26-seats of free ca$h for management. But not to fear, many of those will be going elsewhere for whipsaw duty, so it won't be THAT bad. ;)

RJ Pilot 06-12-2012 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1210609)
....and flying them for the same pay we currently fly a 50-seater for !!! :eek:

That's 26-seats of free ca$h for management. But not to fear, many of those will be going elsewhere for whipsaw duty, so it won't be THAT bad. ;)

How much "80" flying will the E-jets take away? Any Ideas?

eaglefly 06-12-2012 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1210675)
How much "80" flying will the E-jets take away? Any Ideas?

If AA doesn't merge with U, perhaps 50-75 jets worth. I'm anticipating the future AA regional network to be about 250-300 aircraft. Perhaps 50-75 turboprops like the Q400, 50-75 65-seat RJ's like the CRJ-700 and 125 or so 76-seaters comprising both the CRJ-900 and the E-175. I think the current Eagle is more likely to get the CRJ-900 for fleet commonality and perhaps some Q400's. The E-175 I think will be flown by others. The current Eagle will stabilize at about 1500 pilots, with 1 or 2 other carriers flying the other half.

Of the 125 S-80's not replaced by RJ's, 737's will take up about a quarter of that and Airbuses the rest. Attrition over the next 18 months will be about 600 pilots or so to add to the 500 already since last summer. The estimate of 1400 overstaffed by the end of 2013 will actually be close to a wash, so few if any furloughs, certainly no more then 500.


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