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Old 03-29-2010 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by HIREME
Here's the Jan 27th update, notice in the first paragraph it mentions an "aggressive time table" to have a proposal by THIS spring.
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As far as the 800hr deal, it was increased once again to 1500hrs and sent back to the senate. Time to write our congressmen boys and girls. Let's get this done and join the rest of the developed world's airlines.

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Old 03-29-2010 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by HIREME
but the post's topic was referencing Rest Rules...didn't think it would be too big of a jump to assume I was referring to rest requirements when mentioning the "rest of the developed world".
Forgive me, how could I EVER have mistaken this post:

As far as the 800hr deal, it was increased once again to 1500hrs and sent back to the senate. Time to write our congressmen boys and girls. Let's get this done and join the rest of the developed world's airline
to think you were talking about anything other than rest rules
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Old 03-29-2010 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
"The rest of the developed world's airlines"...you mean like all those in Europe that do ab initio training and put 300hr pilots in Boeing and Airbusses?

hey boiler just so you know a lot of students that were at purdue before you were flying right seat in the 727 at ryan int'l with under 300 total time.
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Old 03-29-2010 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Forgive me, how could I EVER have mistaken this post:



to think you were talking about anything other than rest rules
Not sure since that was a response to another post and not the subject of the thread...try to pay attention..focus
EDIT: reread my post...should've spaced that last sentance to make it more clear. sticking to topic, it's the rest requirements I'm interested in, not the hiring mins
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Old 03-29-2010 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
"The rest of the developed world's airlines"...you mean like all those in Europe that do ab initio training and put 300hr pilots in Boeing and Airbusses?
Maybe. And where they also have high safety standards like in the US and most definitely have humane and appropriate duty regulations.

As a product of the Euro ab initio training, I can only say it was selective and tough. Not perfect, but it is not a joke like some folks make it out to be.
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Old 03-29-2010 | 11:54 AM
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Ok well I'm almost certain that I heard the lady from the FAA tell congress we'd see the NPRM for comment by the end of March (when she was sitting in for Babbit on 4 Feb).

Of course we've gone from Jan to Mar already so who knows. Perhaps they're waiting on the scientific study for commuting and fatigue from the reauthorization bill.


EDIT: This is from page four of the hearing on 4 Feb.
http://transportation.house.gov/Medi...204/SSM_Av.pdf

Status of FAA Safety Initiatives Related to the FAA’s Call to Action
Fatigue: In July 2009, the FAA charted an ARC to develop recommendations for an FAA rule on
pilot flight and duty time. The ARC met its September 1, 2009, deadline and provided the FAA
with a broad framework for drafting a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) that the agency
planned to publish by December 31, 2009. The FAA now plans to publish an NPRM in April 2010.
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Old 03-29-2010 | 12:16 PM
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hey boiler just so you know a lot of students that were at purdue before you were flying right seat in the 727 at ryan int'l with under 300 total time.
Yes, I am aware of that.
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Old 03-30-2010 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by samc
Ok well I'm almost certain that I heard the lady from the FAA tell congress we'd see the NPRM for comment by the end of March (when she was sitting in for Babbit on 4 Feb).

Of course we've gone from Jan to Mar already so who knows. Perhaps they're waiting on the scientific study for commuting and fatigue from the reauthorization bill.


EDIT: This is from page four of the hearing on 4 Feb.
http://transportation.house.gov/Medi...204/SSM_Av.pdf

Status of FAA Safety Initiatives Related to the FAA’s Call to Action
Fatigue: In July 2009, the FAA charted an ARC to develop recommendations for an FAA rule on
pilot flight and duty time. The ARC met its September 1, 2009, deadline and provided the FAA
with a broad framework for drafting a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) that the agency
planned to publish by December 31, 2009. The FAA now plans to publish an NPRM in April 2010.


Thanks samc
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Old 06-15-2010 | 06:31 AM
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I asked the FAA last week concerning this issue.

I have been told that it is currently with the "Bean Counters" at the OMB.
This is just part of the process and we all have to wait until September.
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Old 06-15-2010 | 11:00 AM
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If there was any doubt the airlines spell safety like this ----> $afety....
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