New updates on FAA rest rules?
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Anyone heard anything new? Last I heard on Jan 27th was that an update or opening for public comment was coming this spring. Heard from 2 other pilots that the rules would be in place by June of THIS year....anyone else know anything about it?
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Its almost like the feds are hiding this for some reason?
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The only thing published on the FAA website is the withdrawl of a NPRM from 1995:
Flight Crewmember Duty Period Limitations, Flight Time Limitations and Rest
The do however have a current NPRM that is open for comments until 4/9:
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2010/pdf/2010-2643.pdf
My guess is the FAA is just going to wait for congress to force them to do something
Flight Crewmember Duty Period Limitations, Flight Time Limitations and Rest
The do however have a current NPRM that is open for comments until 4/9:
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2010/pdf/2010-2643.pdf
My guess is the FAA is just going to wait for congress to force them to do something
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The April 9 ANRPM above is the post-colgan proposal which would mandate an ATP or enhancements to the CPL for 121 ops SICs. For the FAA, it is moving along pretty quickly, but we'll see what happens after the public comment period closes.
I'm not sure where the rest/duty rules went.
I'm not sure where the rest/duty rules went.
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It had better be something solid, but at the least they need to add the wording "behind the door" to the regs. Since currently, if it's not in your contract, you're only getting time away from the aircraft. Biggest joke in the regs as far as I'm concerned. As much fun as it is waiting for the hotel van outside the terminal, I don't consider that rest by any stretch.
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Come on guys. The FAA is OWNED by the ATA and RAA. As a result of the bad press with the Colgan accident, the FAA has to PRETEND to do something, only without really doing hardly anything. Hopefully Congress will take charge of it and FORCE the FAA to do something meaningful . . . like it appears they are doing with the stupid watered-down 800 hour experience requirement to fly Part 121 that the FAA proposed and the RAA figures is better than real safety of real airline pilot license.
My guess is that the lap-dog dolts at ALPA Delta that want a 9 hour fly day are going to get it (the ATA loves those guys) and there will be a tiny, inconsequential, and laughable increase in rest.
My guess is that the lap-dog dolts at ALPA Delta that want a 9 hour fly day are going to get it (the ATA loves those guys) and there will be a tiny, inconsequential, and laughable increase in rest.
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Here's the Jan 27th update, notice in the first paragraph it mentions an "aggressive time table" to have a proposal by THIS spring.
Fact Sheet
As far as the 800hr deal, it was increased once again to 1500hrs and sent back to the senate. Time to write our congressmen boys and girls. Let's get this done and join the rest of the developed world's airlines.
Fact Sheet
As far as the 800hr deal, it was increased once again to 1500hrs and sent back to the senate. Time to write our congressmen boys and girls. Let's get this done and join the rest of the developed world's airlines.
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[QUOTE=HIREME Let's get this done and join the rest of the developed world's airlines.[/QUOTE]
"The rest of the developed world's airlines"...you mean like all those in Europe that do ab initio training and put 300hr pilots in Boeing and Airbusses?
"The rest of the developed world's airlines"...you mean like all those in Europe that do ab initio training and put 300hr pilots in Boeing and Airbusses?
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sure...as long as we get the same cost/knowledge based training...but the post's topic was referencing Rest Rules...didn't think it would be too big of a jump to assume I was referring to rest requirements when mentioning the "rest of the developed world".
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