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04-18-2010 | 10:30 AM
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Che Guevara
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All of Europe has been grounded and guess what? The world kept on spinning. We need to lobby hard to drop the RLA it's ruining us. When congress is wondering why an FO was making $18k a year someone should have mentioned the RLA binds our hands to get more.
04-18-2010 | 01:45 PM
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Doesn't it also bind the hands of the company's?
04-18-2010 | 03:42 PM
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04-18-2010 | 06:23 PM
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Interestingly, I've recently talked to some non-airline friends and acqaintances about union/RLA issues and the overarching feeling of Americans towards unions is bad. Might not be able to get any traction on changing the RLA because the public only sees benefit in the law.
04-18-2010 | 06:34 PM
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Almost shot pepsi out my nose, hilarious! I'm not sure how it binds the companies hands either, I'd be interested to learn about it. I think the general idea of the RLA was that the status quo would be maintained for a short period while a new contract was put in place. What the RLA is doing now (preventing a new contract and maintaining old contracts for 3-5 years) I don't believe was the intent of the law. I guess it's just another example of law of unintended consequences.
Interestingly, I've recently talked to some non-airline friends and acqaintances about union/RLA issues and the overarching feeling of Americans towards unions is bad. Might not be able to get any traction on changing the RLA because the public only sees benefit in the law.
Interestingly, I've recently talked to some non-airline friends and acqaintances about union/RLA issues and the overarching feeling of Americans towards unions is bad. Might not be able to get any traction on changing the RLA because the public only sees benefit in the law.
04-19-2010 | 12:47 PM
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From: Economy Minus
I will take a stab at it. I think it depends on the health of the industry and the economy.
If things are going great, tons of money is being made, pilot pay scale is low, then it is certainly in the best interest of the company to drag feet and maintain the "status quo" for as long as possible.
Conversely, if things are going bad, economy is not great, and pilots are being paid above and beyond the "industry average" because all the carriers are signing whipsaw agreements, it is likely that the pilots would have to sign a concessionary agreement. In that case, it would be in the union's interest to drag things out as long as possible and maintain the higher pay scales as long as possible.
If things are going great, tons of money is being made, pilot pay scale is low, then it is certainly in the best interest of the company to drag feet and maintain the "status quo" for as long as possible.
Conversely, if things are going bad, economy is not great, and pilots are being paid above and beyond the "industry average" because all the carriers are signing whipsaw agreements, it is likely that the pilots would have to sign a concessionary agreement. In that case, it would be in the union's interest to drag things out as long as possible and maintain the higher pay scales as long as possible.
04-19-2010 | 08:25 PM
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From: DC-9 Neo, Right
don't worry, this place is being set up to fail this summer. With the increased flying in LGA, JFK and ATL we are seeing and the fact that those flights are being routed through our other bases this place is going be severely impacted anytime there is bad weather or any time we have a plane that has a mx problem in one of those bases. Add that to the fact that the bottom 30% of each seniority list that has been continually getting abused for 3 years straight now is so tired that they don't care about anything anymore.
It's because of DW and his worthless staffing model that this joke of an outfit is NEVER going to hire. Seriously, can't ANYONE down at NonCaring figure out that we need pilots now???
04-21-2010 | 12:54 PM
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