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Old 06-27-2010, 03:57 PM
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airlineapps update: hiring minimums lowered to 900 total, 75 multi, Jr High diploma.
In this job market, a company's minimums are lowered? Wow.
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Old 06-27-2010, 08:11 PM
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I interviewed, 1400/270 ME currently instructing 3 days a week.

They told me I did not pass the verbal interview portion, despite me answering every question perfectly. The only thing that I might have done that they did not like is I asked what sort of changes have been made since 3407. The look on both peoples faces was telling, that was the only time the wrote anything down, otherwise questions were super super basic. No joke less complicated then commercial check ride stuff. If they are not proud of the changes they made and not willing to accept any responsibility for not doing their homework previously then that is no company i'd ever want to get near. Being that arrogant something will happen again. Staff from the company were nice but none of the pilot staff struck me as really liking their jobs. Body language told it all. I was even older then one of the check-airman and I'm only 27.

Not too sure what they are looking for, most of the outgoing applicants that exhibited signs of leadership qualities were sent home packing, perhaps it's just sheep they need, that will follow all orders right or wrong. I was not impressed.

Surprising thing during the interview never once asked a single question to determine my decision making ability or my willingness to stand up to a bad captain.

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Old 06-27-2010, 08:47 PM
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I have 1,269 total and 76 ME... 1023 PIC. CFI, CFII & MEI and previous Part 135 VFR operation experience.

Any chance that I might get an interview?????
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Old 06-27-2010, 09:47 PM
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I have 1,269 total and 76 ME... 1023 PIC. CFI, CFII & MEI and previous Part 135 VFR operation experience.

Any chance that I might get an interview?????

Any chance you'll take subpar pay and QOL?
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Old 06-28-2010, 04:27 AM
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Any chance you'll take subpar pay and QOL?
What's means qol??

Well actually as you can see I don't have that much multiengine time since is difficult in my country to find a multi flying job and I don't want to instruct anymore so colgan is one of my options.
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:27 AM
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I interviewed, 1400/270 ME currently instructing 3 days a week.

They told me I did not pass the verbal interview portion, despite me answering every question perfectly. The only thing that I might have done that they did not like is I asked what sort of changes have been made since 3407. The look on both peoples faces was telling, that was the only time the wrote anything down, otherwise questions were super super basic.
That didn't get you eliminated. I asked the same question, along with several followup questions about 3407 and was still offered a class date. They (the EWR CP, line captain, and HR) were quite open and willing to talk about the accident with me.
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:37 AM
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Don't go to colgan, I had an old flight instructor friend of mine die working for them, they were ferrying a plane from CapeCod back to NYC and was press to go with a known control surface problem that needed to be fixed in NYC, for some reason there was not a tool in CapeCod to repair propery so it was "airworthy" to take to NYC but on takeoff it crashed killing both crew members.....
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Old 06-28-2010, 07:00 AM
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I interviewed, 1400/270 ME currently instructing 3 days a week.

They told me I did not pass the verbal interview portion, despite me answering every question perfectly. The only thing that I might have done that they did not like is I asked what sort of changes have been made since 3407. The look on both peoples faces was telling, that was the only time the wrote anything down, otherwise questions were super super basic. No joke less complicated then commercial check ride stuff. If they are not proud of the changes they made and not willing to accept any responsibility for not doing their homework previously then that is no company i'd ever want to get near. Being that arrogant something will happen again. Staff from the company were nice but none of the pilot staff struck me as really liking their jobs. Body language told it all. I was even older then one of the check-airman and I'm only 27.

Not too sure what they are looking for, most of the outgoing applicants that exhibited signs of leadership qualities were sent home packing, perhaps it's just sheep they need, that will follow all orders right or wrong. I was not impressed.

Surprising thing during the interview never once asked a single question to determine my decision making ability or my willingness to stand up to a bad captain.

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No doubt they are looking to slum at that place now. I went to the interview and was sent home too....2100 TT and 160 ME. Unfortunately I had a couple busted 141 checkrides back in the day way before 3407...I never thought the day would come where people would scrutinize my training until today. Chuck pulled me aside himself and said that they couldn't proceed because of the Capt of 3407 and the microscope is on them.

I don't know what they are looking for over there...I went when the standards were 1000 TT, 100 ME, ATP, more than one failed checkride needed to be explained. But I think people with half a brain were not going to work for that kind of crap QOL and pay. When I went a few weeks ago, there were people with over 1500 hrs, ATP writtens, 121/135 backgrounds. I think I had the most TT in there, but I am only a busy CFI.

I hope most of those people in there with me had the balls to stand up and say no to that culture of poor work standards. They were pitching us poor pay (but you already knew that), Reserve somewhere on the east coast with 5 days on 2 off, and the SAAB (might have been a deal breaker for some). I won't say I am a diva, but that just sounds lovely for $21/hr. EWR is lovely this time of year from what I understand. They mentioned that the Dash wasn't going to be likely for new hires because they were going to upgrade current SAAB pilots to that.

I went for the interview experience and I think I got more than what I came for. I might have made the idea of an airline interview a little more glamorous than what it actually is, but it did seem very off the hip...very informal. The check pilots they introduced us to were younger....I am 29, but I asked how long they had been there, both captains confirmed my suspicions that they were wet commercial hires back at the beginning of the great hiring spree of the mid 2000's.

The HR lady was very nice, Chuck looked like he just rolled out of bed in his suit and didn't have an opportunity to dust off his dandruff just yet. The log book review was very long and drawn out process. The test was a joke. All and all I would give the Colgan presentation a D effort. It is exactly what I thought it would be after watching the "Flying Cheep" episode on TV.

Of course I can just see people now saying, "well maybe you shouldn't have sucked on your checkrides and maybe you could have continued with the interview". True statement. But after instructing for over 2 years, I can say that it builds character when I see a student of mine, or another student struggle and make it through the tough times. Some people actually do learn from their mistakes and grow. Too bad Colgan doesn't have the wiggle room to make that exception. But, I have been told its a blessing in disguise...I think they are right. Good luck to those who feel that this is their only option to get into the biz...try and be patient, hold out for a job that will treat you with some degree of respect, and will pay you a little more. Wait...am I still talking about the airlines?
Colgan is just another company with management who is in a race to the bottom. Period Dot.

Flame on I guess.
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Old 06-28-2010, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ejsella View Post
What's means qol??

Well actually as you can see I don't have that much multiengine time since is difficult in my country to find a multi flying job and I don't want to instruct anymore so colgan is one of my options.
are guys from other countries coming to the U.S. to fly?
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Old 06-28-2010, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ejsella View Post
I have 1,269 total and 76 ME... 1023 PIC. CFI, CFII & MEI and previous Part 135 VFR operation experience.

Any chance that I might get an interview?????
sounds like you have just the right times
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