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Old 05-31-2010 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by G-Dog
I am sorry, are you implying that BB can change the RAH CBA when economic times get rough? I think not. They can change the F9 contract though in the aforementioned conditions. Correct me if I am wrong, but if I am right about the F9 contract, they are in for some rough times ahead.
You are wrong. As stated earlier, this is no different (and probably less severe) then what is contained in your contract under the title of "No Furlough". Different name but the same item in the contract.
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Old 05-31-2010 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by G-Dog
I am sorry, are you implying that BB can change the RAH CBA when economic times get rough? I think not. They can change the F9 contract though in the aforementioned conditions. Correct me if I am wrong, but if I am right about the F9 contract, they are in for some rough times ahead.
You are mostly wrong. He can't "change the contract"...it is an agreement. However, he can invoke force majeure as your "economic conditions" wording is just as weak as ours.

Whether or not we are in for some "rough times" has nothing to do with loa 39 and its wording. The process for implementation and integration of our list(s) is governed by the LAW..not the ibt, alpa, fapa or anyone else. Your union is doing you the disservice of assuming you guys will believe what they say. I am not being trite when I say you need to educate yourself by reading and researching the RLA, Allegheny Mowhawk and previous sli negotations...especially ones ruled upon by Eischen.
I agree that one list is very critical against whipsaw; however, the process is what it is and there will not be implementation the day after the new list is announced.
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Old 06-01-2010 | 04:03 AM
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Be careful not to post Trade Secret information guys. Companies do not like that.
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Old 06-03-2010 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Be careful not to post Trade Secret information guys. Companies do not like that.
It's not like they're discussing the Krabby Patty formula or something top secret.
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Old 06-03-2010 | 06:30 PM
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Contract language, though guarded at times, is certainly not proprietary. With that said there is no public access granted to the current FAPA contract. The most logical leak of our contract language to the RAH group would be from the IBT who gained access during discovery.

Now some may cry, FLEX you posted language from the RAH contract. I gained access to the RAH contract through a simple internet search. https://www.republicpilots.org/, allows you to save a copy from a public forum.
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Old 06-03-2010 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FLEX
With that said there is no public access granted to the current FAPA contract.
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/
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Old 06-03-2010 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatormjc
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/
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aviatormjc,

Please accept my apology for my inaccurate statement. I stand corrected. You can gain access to the FAPA contract from a public forum.

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Old 06-04-2010 | 08:20 AM
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There are a few Frontier/Lynx turbo props parked in SDF sans engines and props. Overhaul, storage, engines repoed, aircraft headed for scrap?
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Old 06-04-2010 | 07:06 PM
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Engines are being leased back to the manufacturer until a buyer is found. Planes are definitely not being scrapped.
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Old 06-05-2010 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
Engines are being leased back to the manufacturer until a buyer is found. Planes are definitely not being scrapped.
Did they layoff the pilots that flew them or where they replaced with something else?
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